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Old 09-01-2015
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Originally Posted by kvcxn
Ah, my bad. 0L not 0 ohms.
Ok that's an open circuit, not a dead short.

That makes it easier to condemn the coil now, just verify everything is still connected and no wires got chewed in half.

I'll try again today after work but it's a really tight fit. I could probably unplug it but I can't see myself being able to get a lead down there and reliably touching the connector.
Easiest to reach it from underneath. Take the splash shields out of the way and you can reach it pretty easy...

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IF you can get under the car!


Little buggers can cause some expensive damage too.
I'm doing a set of fuel lines under a 13 Accord in the morning, rodent chewed through the fuel feed line on top of the gas tank. The price estimate was over a grand for a set of factory fuel lines and labor. The guys insurance is covering it....this time.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Hey ezone.. The feeler gauges I bought only go up to 0.035".. What size do I use for pulley?
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Spec for air gap is .020" +/- .006" for a new clutch and pulley.


Feeler gauges don't work well on a worn clutch, I use a dial indicator for all my clutch setups.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

This is a brand new one. Finally got the parts in from Bernardi Honda Parts.. new clutch and pulley..
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Ok, so i got the stuff. I got the pulley and finally got the coil off. now i can't seem to get the snap ring back on. the one that came with the new parts flew off the snap ring pliers so i can't find it. i am using the one that came off. called dealerships..autozone..oreilleys..advanced auto.. standard auto.. everywhere and can't seem to find the snap ring... any ideas or could i just use the old one and not worry about it? I am going to take the whole compressor off tomorrow.. i'm tired of messing with it.. this is the 3rd day working on this car..
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Use the old one if you have to, if you did not hurt it getting it apart.

Be aware of the one beveled inner edge, it faces you as you install it.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Originally Posted by ezone
Use the old one if you have to, if you did not hurt it getting it apart.

Be aware of the one beveled inner edge, it faces you as you install it.
I think I M going to take compressor all the way out. Am I going to have to add more oil to compressor? If so where do I buy it and how do I put it in? Oh, and how much?
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Oh and do I have to replace the drier/accumalator also? Just been reading but can't find where it is on the car, nor find it on a honda parts website to buy.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Unless you have a way to recover the freon out of the system safely, you better not attempt to disconnect either hose from the compressor or system.

If you need to disconnect hoses please visit a professional to have the freon safely removed from the system, then it can be safely and accurately refilled by the same person when you are done.


If you don't have the system open very long (cap off the open hoses and compressor ports) the drier does not need to be replaced. It's in the side of the condensor, it resembles a bag, that slides up inside a large tube.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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Unless you have a way to recover the freon out of the system safely, you better not attempt to disconnect either hose from the compressor or system.

If you need to disconnect hoses please visit a professional to have the freon safely removed from the system, then it can be safely and accurately refilled by the same person when you are done.


If you don't have the system open very long (cap off the open hoses and compressor ports) the drier does not need to be replaced. It's in the side of the condensor, it resembles a bag, that slides up inside a large tube.
K.. They got tape on them.. Waiting on help to put it back in. How much pag oil do I put in compressor?
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

How much oil was lost?
How did you remove the freon from the system?

Also, replace the O ring seals on any fittings you took apart.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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How much oil was lost?
How did you remove the freon from the system?

Also, replace the O ring seals on any fittings you took apart.
Recovery machine. (dad AC company).. I emptied the oil because a lot fell out taking out compressor.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

You will have to guesstimate how much oil was lost.

Here's a list I found

PAG oil SP-10
parts replacement quantities:

cond 50 ml
evap 40
each line or hose 10
drier 10
comp 75-85
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Originally Posted by ezone
You will have to guesstimate how much oil was lost.

Here's a list I found

PAG oil SP-10
parts replacement quantities:

cond 50 ml
evap 40
each line or hose 10
drier 10
comp 75-85
I got PAG 46..isnt that compatible?
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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I got PAG 46..isnt that compatible?
Google something like 'PAG oil equivalents' and research.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Originally Posted by ezone
Google something like 'PAG oil equivalents' and research.

Ok. Replaced coil and clutch and still won't work.
Now the fans won't even kick on.. Grrrrr... What am I doing wrong?
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Did you plug it in? Did you turn it on?

Is the thermal protector undamaged? it should have continuity
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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Did you plug it in? Did you turn it on?

Is the thermal protector undamaged? it should have continuity
Thermal protector? The three prong plug on alternator? Sorry.. Don't remember..
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

you got a 3 wire plug that connects to the harness on top of the alternator.

Only one of the 3 operates the clutch

The other 2 are for the thermal protector that was also on the outside of the compressor. If you banged the compressor around getting it out and in you may have damaged it.

Oh, and the system has to have pressure in it before it can start.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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you got a 3 wire plug that connects to the harness on top of the alternator.

Only one of the 3 operates the clutch

The other 2 are for the thermal protector that was also on the outside of the compressor. If you banged the compressor around getting it out and in you may have damaged it.

Oh, and the system has to have pressure in it before it can start.
How can I check if I damaged the compressor?

On the thermal up only one that has power is the outside hole.
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Unplug the 3 wire connector.
Ohm check the outer 2 red wires. Should have continuity between the two.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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Unplug the 3 wire connector.
Ohm check the outer 2 red wires. Should have continuity between the two.

If it does not what does that mean? I can't check it right now, but I think I did.. But not sure..
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

Oh, and.. I have the old coil with me. How do I ohm check it? Just place probe on ground and the female bullet connector?
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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If it does not what does that mean?
It must have continuity for the system to operate.

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Oh, and.. I have the old coil with me. How do I ohm check it? Just place probe on ground and the female bullet connector?
Yes
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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It must have continuity for the system to operate.


Yes
If it has no continuity then maybe the thermal connector line needs to be replaced?
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If it has no continuity then maybe the thermal connector line needs to be replaced?
You should look to see why. Did a wire get chopped in half?
Fixing a cut wire would be cheaper/easier/faster than replacing a part, no?

Did you recharge the system yet?

I've been totally going on the assumption that now the fans do not come on when you turn the AC on.
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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You should look to see why. Did a wire get chopped in half?
Fixing a cut wire would be cheaper/easier/faster than replacing a part, no?

Did you recharge the system yet?

I've been totally going on the assumption that now the fans do not come on when you turn the AC on.
Ok the thermal switch have has continuity between outer ones.. Jump between 3 and 5 terminal made the clutch pull in.. Voltage on the relay one has partial power.. The other ohm ed out at 3-4..
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Ok the thermal switch have has continuity between outer ones.. Jump between 3 and 5 terminal made the clutch pull in.. Voltage on the relay one has partial power.. The other ohm ed out at 3-4..
I tried recharging systsystebut clutch won't engage to suck any in.. Is it supposed to run when I connect the can? Or no?
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I tried recharging systsystebut clutch won't engage to suck any in.. Is it supposed to run when I connect the can? Or no?
I put the red probe in the female end of the bullet connector the connects to the compressor and it had no voltage. I put the black on the compressor. No voltage. Is it supposed to have voltage?
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Re: Is AC overcharged?

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I've been totally going on the assumption that now the fans do not come on when you turn the AC on.
Is this correct?


Did the fans kick on with the AC turned on BEFORE you pulled out the compressor?


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