jbvideo

Hi all;
Long time Accord owner, drove it literally until its KBB was about $600.
Literally have had my 2008 Civic LE for 3 hours. (Automatic, Sedan, 77K miles)

First things I noticed;
Loud road noise (Could be the tires though, came with Tiger Paws)
Hard suspension, felt like I could feel everything on the road (Again, could be the tires)
and the most worrisome, a vibrating at about 1600-1700 RPM in 2nd gear.

On the ride home, I assumed it was a rough part of the road, when I got into my neighborhood, where I KNEW the roads were smooth, I gave it a try;
First gear into second, no vibration (but man what a hard transition).
Second into third. Smooth, but just before the tranny moves into 3rd (at about 1600 RPMs, the thing vibrates, almost as if you were going over some light grooves on the road. Lasts for about 2 seconds. I am betting it I were really pushing the car and driving fast, I might never notice it, but I am an easy driver.

I should also note that this civic was victim of the cracked engine block (Honda bulletin 10-048). Dealer gave me the work order. It was replaced under the 8 year extended warranty. About 1,000 miles ago, so essentially, the block in my Civic is brand new.

Thanks in advance!
JB

ezone

RUMPRUMPRUMPRUMPRUMPRUMP noise?
Choppy tire tread, inner edges. Have a pro evaluate them?
If not unsafe, then live with it until the tires are worn out. Or replace the tires and pick a better design $$$.
Bulletin for rear upper control arms, see if it has already been done to the car or not. It only reduces the tendency to chop tires though. Does not eliminate the issue.
Overinflated tires, or it is just the way a Civic is. You got out of an Accord, this is going to feel rough for a while. Especially with choppy tires.
Ummmmm...Really noticeable when using light throttle.......I'll bet...Torque converter shudder. Seems common on some neglected cars. I'd start with changing the trans fluid a few times, using the correct Honda DW-1 fluid.. (This is yet another reason we recommend changing trans fluid FAR more often than what the factory recommends!)
Did you get a warranty? Get them to buy a torque converter.

jbvideo

No warranty, as is.
Thanks for your reply.
I may call the dealer I bought it from and just ask if they will do a free diagnosis on the car for me with regards to the issues as a courtesy. Just so I know what I am dealing with.

jbvideo

Found this over at 8thcivic.com
The descriptions fits my issue perfectly. Anyone see this as a likely solution? I hope so!

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This reply may be of no concern to the original poster anymore but its important to someone having a similar issue and I see no one has actually given a solution here.

I have had a similar issue in my freshly imported 2008 Civic 1.8L (44,000Kms) Automatic. The car used to Stutter/vibrate especially when going from 2nd gear to 3rd. No vibrations if I applied a little heavy foot to the accelerator. But this meant I had to constantly have an heavy foot while my car picked up to the average speeds in return costing me a bit of fuel. After heavy research and talking to many Honda technicians, the solution was simple:

Honda’s computer learns over time about your driving and adjusts its sensors accordingly. If you have bought the car from someone, it is likely the car is trying to act in the way it has learned from the old driver. A full ECU reset needs to happen so the car can now learn your style of driving.

In my case, the transmission oil was filthy and needed to have a service done. So my Honda technicians did a full Transmission Oil change service and reset the computer.

Now, there is no Stutter/vibrations and the car is smooth like brand new!!!!

ezone

AS-IS, and FREE diag? You think the seller will admit there is anything wrong with the car they JUST sold you, especially if they think you want them to fix it on their dime?
(Hell no. They already got their profit out of you. Prepare to be kicked to the curb like yesterdays trash.)

Honda dealership, or a used car lot?



Free is worth exactly what you pay for it, and is even more likely to cost you far more than necessary.

You probably won't even get correct answers unless the person is intimately familiar with these cars and their specific issues (seasoned dealer tech).

You might have 72 hours to back out of the deal though. Depends on your local regulations.



AFAIK these don't have adaptive shift. IMO, what probably fixed it was the trans service, although 44k km seems awfully early to have the TCC shudder.

jbvideo

I bought it from a Honda dealer, their used car lot.
They did the work on the car (Installed the new engine block in it)
I've been to this service center a few times.
I went by today. They have me scheduled for a free diagnosis in a week.

CraigW

iTrader: (1)

How does the ATF fluid look ??

ezone

I'm impressed.
I'll be more impressed if they fix anything on their own dime, although some warranty coverage might be possible.

(Also, I was totally expecting it to be from some Honest Freds' used car lot.)

jbvideo

I have zero expectations of them fixing anything for free. In fact, all I did was go there and tell them the issue, told them I bought it yesterday and would they mind looking into it and just TELLING me what's the issue, form there I can make a decision on whether or not to fix it and where to have it fixed.

If it is related to the engine block itself (Which I doubt) that's covered until 2016. Honda is offering an extended warranty (8 years) in engine blocks of this generation.

jbvideo

Going to check that the next chance I get... holed up at work right now.

jbvideo

Just checked it. Looks average. Not too dark, has no unusual smell to it. Looks about what ATF should look like

rrico22

hey i live in San Antonio Texas, I am selling my red civic si for $16000, it has 47 thousand miles on it with up to 100 thousand miles dealership warranty,it has brand new tries and both exterior and interior are rlly clean,my phone number is 830 481 0636 just in case you kno of someone who might be interested. thanks

jbvideo

Wow. Off topic much?

ezone

First day on the new intarwebz.

jbvideo

Just tried something I found interesting, maybe it will shed some light here...

I was NOT able to recreate the issue when I drove my car in D3. Switching from 2nd to 3rd while in D3 was smooth, no shakes.

jbvideo

Any chance it coul dbe a torque converter problem?

ezone

Already answered in my first reply.

jbvideo

And the cost to have this installed would be ...? (Saw the assembly is about $500, wondering about installation)

ezone

MSRP for the T/C is only 201.xx McDoubles when you get a reman through Honda.
Part # 26000-RNA-305RM.
Add $ for about 6 quarts of the correct ATF fluid @ 8.23 each.
And some coolant.
Shops are free to set their own parts prices, nobody has to use MSRP.


Install will vary. Call your shop and ask them.
I'd GUESS about 6-7 units of labor fees.


HTH

jbvideo

That seems reasonable. And thanks for yours (and everyone elses) advice.
I am going to take it to the dealer that sold it to me Thursday and they are going to check it out for free and let me know what they think. I'm guessing with their reputation on the line they'll say "Nothing is wrong, we sold you a perfect car" but I will report anyway

ezone

I was giving guesses based on what I see regularly. Your car may or may not have the same issues.
Also, if simple trans fluid service does not get rid of the shudder problem, then some might try additives in the fluid to mask the shudder, if it is TCC shudder. Far cheaper and gets rid of you for a while.
But the factory says the proper fix is to replace the torque converter. That means pulling the trans out, and that's a lot of work that SOMEone needs to pay for.

mhawkr01

I've been having the same problem with my 2010 Civic LX sedan. I have the problem exactly where once I am slowly accelerating from zero or even at slow speeds from 9mph in 2nd gear up to 18 into 3rd gear, and then from 18-27 into 4th gear is where I can feel that shudder or shaking through the pedals and the whole car. If i apply more throttle or let off the gas it goes away. Usually if i am driving at a good pace forward it wont have that vibration, but slow driving let the speedometer cycle up one mph at a time is what causes that shaking as the revs climb naturally.

ezone

How many miles on it?
Sounds like TCC shudder.
Not had regular transmission services every 30k?

Do that today. Use Hondas DW-1 fluid.

Carbuff2

X2 on what Ezone said.

fresh auto fluid keeps Honda trannies working great.

ezone

Good evening, Mr. Haines. Are you still in the second house on the left?

Carbuff2

Yeah, Otherwise known as the Doghouse, just ask my wife.

to you ezone...


Now, BACK TO TOPIC.

Musab Ahmed

Hi Ezone, so I’ve a similar problem with my car that it shudders / shakes while going slow but not when I have a heavy foot on gas.
I’ve 160K miles on my Civic 2012, the trans fluid looks moderate. I bought it from someone else so don’t know what was the last time he changed the ATF. The issue started a couple of days later after I bought the car.

I took it to Honda dealership and they’re saying that it might be the ATF and we could flush it which might solve the problem or the trans could die. It can go either way.

I’m confused what to do and if it’s really the ATF or some other problem, cuz the car runs totally fine with heavy foot or once on 4th 5th gear.

Colin42

Fluid is cheap, change it

Musab Ahmed

I’ve no issues doing that but the fear of the transmission being dead is what’s frightening me.
cuz he told me it’s gonna cost 3 grand for a new transmission.

Colin42

If the trans is dead, it was dead before you changed the fluid. You could change the trans in the driveway and save probably about $2k. I did it on an 05