bdadokay

I got to say, I'm really surprised how much the steering is connected to the road in my '03. Do the 6th and 8th generation have the same connection? I just drove the '13 Si and it felt very disconnected. The '15 mazda 3 as also disconnected. Is this the way of the future, because it would be very sad!

Slumpertcivic

Once your over 40, spend 2-3 laps in a go kart and you would welcome that disconnected feeling..

Seriously though, cars are more and more becoming driven by the computers and too the computer your just a back seat driver..

bdadokay

seems like a big hoax. Disconnect the feeling, throw in a bunch of features and call it day. I'll be dead before self-driving takes over, but until then, I wanna live a little.

ezone

I'd hate to drive any car that doesn't have connected steering.

Seems like whenever that happens someone ends up upside down and dead, or in a ditch.

sdaidoji

iTrader: (1)

I bought a 95 miata with manual steering, no AC, no ABS, no power windows, exactly for that reason.

Wankenstein

Want connection? Depower steering rack:
1) drain and disconnect power steering pump and hoses
2) remove rack and pinion
3) disassemble rack and pinion and cut off metal/silicone (piston) seal on rack bar: doing so doesn't allow air pressure to build inside rack.
4) grease all moving parts including pinion gears.
5) replace needle-cup bearing if necessary
6) re-install rack and pinion

Here's one-way (not how I did mine): http://www.d-series.org/forums/diy-f...teezz-way.html

I did this for my '95 EX coupe. Not sure if it's the same for 7th gen.
You will feel everything but parallel parking and 3-point turns suck.

Colin42

he's complaining about newer cars using drive by wire instead of physically connecting the steering wheel to the rack

ezone

Um, it's still physically connected directly to the steering rack.


S2K used Electric Power Steering, and those were pretty dang sporty cars

Colin42

Bad choice of words on my part, I meant the OP is complaining about the feeling of the newer cars compared to the older cars. Wonder if they've ever driving an old car with the one finger power steering, no road feel at all

ezone

The plain Civics all had standard hydraulic power steering up until model year 2011.

Starting with 2012 all Civics have EPS

The USA Civic SI series (Canadian SI-R??) have had EPS since 2002.

sdaidoji

iTrader: (1)

yeah, the newer ones will require someone to hack into the system to change the settings/parameters to make it heavier or not.

Ah, depowering hydraulic systems might need to have caster revised (more perpendicular) to make steering easier. That will still not help on the rack ratio (manual steering racks have more wheel turns lock to lock to make easier to steer) so don't go too crazy on depowering. The 6th gen and earlier are light enough that you don't feel as much, though. from 7th gen and forward, the cars are going heavier and heavier by the year