5hamers

hey guys my 91 civic uses 2 quartz a month of oil could i use 10w30 oil or 40 to cut down on oil loss? just wanna keeper going for a little longer until i get a newer ride

Wankenstein

Oil loss is via leak or burning?

30w is the factory recommended. Inspected PCV valve recently?

5hamers

pcv is new ?

ezone

How many miles is that?

5hamers

2 quarts in 4000 miles

brags

That"s a lot of oil in that span too go thru i would switch to a thicker

viscous oil try 10w40 high mileage oil for the short term band-aid solution

since your not holding on too it long term. LoL don't blame You for wanting

another Car...? whats the mileage on Your Civic.?

5hamers

220,000 miles she runs good just gotta add oil

brags

220.000 Miles here in Canada is about 350.000 km's converted over that's not horribly

terible... considering Your mileage and all the wear & tear on the engine did You buy it new or used ?

not sure what "grade of oil" You were using before but You could try using 10w40 High Mileage oil .?



https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-Sup...fL51MdzFwGdHUY

5hamers

hey brags i bought it in 2006 from a family member pretty cheap not sure what oil he used but all maintenance was done on it i use bg moa and penzoil 5w30 oil it helped before but oil loss seems to be getting worse what if i add 2 cans of moa ? and HM mobile1 10w40 oil?

ezone

IMO thats not a lot. Maybe not real desirable but not unusual at all, actually pretty good for over 200k miles.

Industry standard is often quoted as a quart per 1000 miles, some more, some less

brags

Right Honda in USA says its ok to use a quart of oil every 1000 miles same

applies here in Canada except its every 1.600 thousand Canadian kilometres

which in my Opinion is B.S. So basically what Honda is saying is its ok to

use 3-4 bottles of oil in-between oil changes until Your next oil change. i

think thats Hondas way of Not eccepting responsibility for fixing there problem.

Lets talk about the (New Hondas) that are fitted with crappy "Low Tension Oil

piston rings" to save on Fuel if the owner of that car does not use synthetic oil

and change it early enough before its due he to will face this Oil consumption

problem because anything out of warranty even though oil/filter changes

were done on time at honda. HONDA CAN ALWAYS REFUSE Repaire even though

they Know there crappy Low tension Oil Piston Rings are junk and will cause Oil

consumption down the road wich usually ends up being right after Your car warranty

expires ends up being mysteriously in Hondas favour.?

ezone

Nope....EVERY manufacturer says the same thing.


You better talk about EVERY manufacturer that's using the exact same piston ring technology, many of them are having similar consumption issues.

Sometimes that doesn't even matter.
Sometimes there are other factors that come into play.
Some of the trouble prone engines don't even develop consumption issues worth mentioning.

They reserve the right to refuse, just like any other.

You apparently aren't familiar with warranty extensions on a couple of of Hondas engines that have oil consumption issues.

Ever hear of a warranty extension for a cracked block ?

brags

ezone

Warranty extensions are "ONLY good IF Honda" decides to do them no different

then recalls. if NOT Your stuck with the Bill LOL Honda don't Care ezone don't

think because its a Honda that Honda will pay for every little defect even though

they know its a design or engineering flaw Honda likes too think there the best at

making a reliable vehicle over anyone else. lately thats not what i been seeing.

ezone

IF your cars situation is evaluated and does not meet the criteria or is outside of the defined period, it's not covered (and rightly so).

A warranty extension is quite different from a recall.

No, you're free to live with (whatever the problem is) at no extra charge.

If a shop does work to your car without your authorization, are you stuck with a bill?



FYI some of these include provisions for reimbursement if the cars owner paid for a repair that was later covered.
Did you forget what I do for a living or something? I'm in the frontline trenches 5+ days a week.

Also
Sometimes I get ****** at all the precious snowflakes who don't want to accept that sooner or later they must actually own the car, and all the problems that come with it.

I'd never make it in customer service LOL

brags

ezone just remember when the tables are turned on You one day.

Karma can be a f-bitch to handle. and if You don't care about customers

why should they care about buying or having there honda fixed at honda? i wouldn't

i would be looking at something else than honda.

brags

No need to add 2 Cans of BG MOA (1 Can of BG MOA covers 5 Liters of oil ) ...which yours don't take LOL

as i mentioned at this point i would try mobile High Mileage 10w40 oil if

You wanna add a can of MOA even better Question ? when You ran Pennzoil

5w30 Oil in Your Civic was that synthetic or mineral oil.?

ezone

I can't tell if you are defending the OP, attacking me personally, or attacking the manufacturer in general.
aaand yet somehow Chrysler is still selling cars.

5hamers

i use penzz synthetic and run it about 7,000 miles i will give the h.m oil a try thanks guys!

brags

Synthetic Oil is Sliicker/sliperier than Mineral Oil in a "tight engine"

(meaning Piston oil Rings are sealing well) Synthetic Oil is ok to use"

"but in a worn engine" like Yours it goes by the oil rings easier there by

consuming More Oil than Your Engine should be using stop using it. and

switch to Mineral Oil like 10W40 High Mileage Oil .

Cheers...

mac25

Do not use Mobil 1 of any sort.

Use Mobil 2000 10w30, and 1 full bottle of Lucas Stop Leak in the summer, use just 10w30 mobil 2000 in the winter, or the equivalent in other brands.

I've been a Lube Tech for 4 years; I've used that combo in probably hundreds of cars if not thousands.

brags

Just Curious Mac25...? Can You explain what the Stop Leak does/reacts in the engine along with the Oil.?

mac25

It jacks up the oil film while staying as close as possible to the operational viscosity of 30 (I would guess that 1 bottle to 3.5L oil would raise the viscosity a bit though).

But it will push you over the desired viscosity in cold conditions while starting, so I usually don't use lucas while the weather is cold.

As well using 10w30 over 5w30 means that the cold viscosity will be thicker and will have less opportunity to leak into the cylinders or out of the engine while parked.

It is best not to use synthetic because though mobil 1 synthetic 10w30, and, mobil 2000 10w30, share an operational viscosity range across heat cycles ( As well as close oil film ratings), The synthetic oil has smaller molecules and can slip through gaps easier.



Burning will happen if the valve seals are warn (therefore they will have larger gaps than originally) or if the piston rings are worn. With higher viscosities and film rates the oil will be able to span larger gaps while staying together on a surface, rather than dripping between the gaps.

On the down side you loose power and fuel efficiency as well as gaining issues while trying to start cold.

brags

Mac25 "Dang that"s one old Youtube Video"...! didn't think Youtube carried such

Old Videos like that from 1937.! good Find dude...

mac25

Ya it's an interesting clip, thx.