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My first Honda, 2004 Civic HX

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Hello all. I am new to the forum and new to Hondas in general if you discount our 2000 Odyssey. I was in the market for a new commuter car and I picked up an 04 HX with a 5 speed for $2500. It's got 137k miles and is in decent shape, but it needs a little TLC like most older cars.
I've got a plan for some preventive maintenance but I would appreciate any input. I've got no evidence of the timing belt being replaced, so that is very high on my list. I plan on maybe replacing some of the other optional parts while I've got it apart. I'm probably going to replace the plugs too for good measure. It's got a P0135 and PA200 code for the first O2 sensor, so I also need to get that resolved. It's currently disconnected which I am sure does not help my mileage. I specifically sought out this package for the fuel economy.
For the sensor, It seems there can be some confusion about when they switched to the wideband type in 04. I was a little unsure, but in the end, my research tells me I need this part:
O2 Sensor O2 Sensor
. I was planning on using
these these
for the plugs. Is there a better supplier than Amazon for these parts? For the timing kit, a friend of mine said I should get gates. Are these the OEM, or should I be looking at something else? Also, it looks like all the D17's including my A6 take the same timing kit, is this confirmed? Is it worth buying the kit that has the valve cover gasket and a bunch of other extras, or should I stick with the basic kit and just add the gasket piecemeal? Where is the best place to get these?
The car is going to need new tires soon and I like the look of 16's, but do they more than slightly affect mileage? If I did go that route, they'd likely be used and therefore not specifically bought to be lightweight. I suppose I could also just get new rubber for the stock 14's, at least they are not hub caps. The car came with a new battery and a newish clutch, and new ceramic pads up front. I've only ever used semi metallic, is there anything I should be aware of?
I lucked out and the car came with an older but still in good shape JVC KW-NT3HDT. It's way more stereo than I would probably ever buy or need, but it's really nice to have. I really like the Bluetooth and that the navigation won't eat up either my phone battery or data plan. The graphics look a little like I'm playing formula 1 on Super Nintendo, but beggars can't be choosers. Being able to plug in a nice big thumb drive loaded with music is a nice feature I never knew I would like. I've even thought about getting a license plate camera and hooking that up to it.
The car came with manual windows but power doors and AC. I was considering opening up the dash to see if it has keyless entry already and was just missing the fob. What are my best options for adding it if I have to start from scratch? Should I just go straight to aftermarket, or should I try and locate a junkyard system from and EX? If so what years and models are compatible? I also need to get a second key made, is the dealership the best source for this?

All in all, I think this is going to be a great little car for me and it's already very fun to drive. At first driving a stick again was a little bumpy after so many years, but already it feels right. I found my self wanting to down shift to a stop sign while driving the odyssey and it gave me a chuckle. It may be underpowered by some people's standards, but it feels like a sports car to me. I just hope I can stay off it enough to keep the mpg high.

One last thing, is it normal for this car to be at about 2200 rpms at 60? Being supposedly taller geared, I was expecting something below 2k for cruising speed.
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Can anyone answer the questions about the parts? Specifically the timing kits?
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Re: My first Honda, 2004 Civic HX

Originally Posted by Donahue View Post
Can anyone answer the questions about the parts? Specifically the timing kits?
I personally want the timing kit from Honda. I've read about too many tensioner failures with other kits from amazon & ebay.

I think dealers charge premium prices but you will get the highest quality parts. There is a dealer on the west coast that discounts retail price. Shop their website (there is a link in the main 7th gen forum page). Email them your VIN and ask for them to price you a timing belt kit. Read more here: https://www.civicforums.com/forums/182-7th-generation-civic/338894-oem-parts-look-here-before-buying.html

The west coast dealer is here: http://www.hondapartscheap.com/auto-parts/2004/honda/civic-coupe/hx-trim/5-speed-manual-engine/maintenance-cat
I agree with your spark plugs & O2 selections. I posted about the maintenance I've done back in April. Drain & fill tranny, etc. I also adjusted my valve clearances and cleaned my IAC. https://www.civicforums.com/forums/182-7th-generation-civic/363632-my-7th-gen-1-year-anniversary.html

Congrats on your Civic. Looks like a good one. I'd keep the 14" rims, they are light and the tires are lower priced over 16s.

There are a lot of great DIYs at this forum and the search function will give you plenty to read. Enjoy and let us know if you have questions.

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