chozobody

Have a question for you guys, ezone specifically. My Ignition Cylinder seems to have gone out, and I'm curious as to swapping a new one from a donor. I know I would need to match submodels along with MT, but I need to know what else would be necessary. If I got the ecu and the keys from the donor car as well, would it be a simple PnP installation, or would I need to get everything reflashed? What other options do I have?

ezone

If you swapped with used lock and keys and immobi ring, you'd have to get it all programmed to your PCM before the engine would run because of the immobilizer.

That usually means a tow to the dealer or a call to a very well equipped locksmith with the appropriate scanner.
And you'll have mismatched keys for the door and ignition.

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If you get the keys/ignition lock/immobi ring/ AND the PCM as a matched set all from the same car, they should all be PnP and work.
But you'll have mismatched keys for the door and ignition.

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OTOH you can call your local dealer and ask if they can retumble your ignition cylinder (because it's got worn out tumblers) and what that would cost if you carried it in, already removed from the car. (And add about $4 for two new tamper proof bolts)

Be forewarned, many times when I do this the key is also worn out and must be replaced with the tumblers. That means a programming session to make that new key start the engine.

But IF you have a good condition (less worn) key, you may be able to use that, no programming.

Hell, a good key might let you drive the car some more. For a minute anyway.

chozobody

Thats the whole reason I'm doing it now. Even the new key dosen't work. Would any Honda dealership be able to repin my tumbler? If so, that sounds like a better option.

ezone

You'll have to ask your dealer. If they don't give the answer you need, call another.

Remember, you will talk to everyone BUT the techs that may know about it. Advisors may not have any clue what you want. They may not have any clue this is possible....unless they have successfully dealt with the issue already.

Some won't have anyone capable of the task.
Some probably have no idea where their tumbler kit is, or never got a kit.
Some will want to sell you all brand new because profit.

There isn't information on procedures for rekeying these ignition locks in the service manual. In fact, there is a bulletin stating NOT to rekey ignition locks (for some reason --- I don't know why, I do it quite often)...so some probably won't just because of that.

chozobody

Ill call around first thing in the morning. Worst case, ill pay you directly if you could help me out.

Thanks for all your help man. I found some threads you helped out with a while ago, so I knew you were the guy for the job. Holy **** though, you have an 87 Mazda B-Series? I used to have an 87 B2000 myself. Traded it not to long ago for my 89 RX-7.

ezone

I've had the truck for 20 years now. Just renewed the license plate.
I wouldn't own a rotor motor.
PM if you need to.

chozobody

Good News! I got the bolts out! Took a dremel, my drill, a screw extractor kit and a hammer, but I got it. Picked up some new bolts already with the same thread pitch and size, but I got an allen wrench head style bolt for it, to save me the trouble next time.

Even better news, I found three dealers who would be willing to retumble my cylinder. Lowest price I got was $119, which seemed more than reasonable.

Thanks for all your help ezone, couldn't have done it without your help!

ezone

Sounds reasonable to me (mainly because a shop has to charge the same labor rate as regular car work).... Good luck.