CraigW

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ezone. Stick around a while, would you please ?

How do you like your controversial 2012 Civic ?? What trim level ?

My 2010 is the simply wonderful. Can't wait to get my new factory wheels and some real tires on it. Eagle RSAs are poopoo.

ezone

Stick around? Thanks, but that'll cost ya. Time is money, you know. LOL

Civic is just a 4 door LX grocery getter. Has about 1000 miles now. First Dyno Blue car to hit the lot.
Meh, it's a car. If I want flashy or loud, I got a Lowrider Minitruck and a Hog.
I have a set of 16" alum. rims from the previous gen Civics that will fit this one, but I don't really want to shell out for a set of tires for them.

Pros: Everything works, unlike my old Buick ('90, P/A). Gas mileage, I have attained as high as 52.3 MPG on a semi-regular 45 mile trip (each way, top off the tank and hit the road), at 50-55 MPH (some trips it's only 48-50ish MPG). Goes down quick as soon as I hit stop and go traffic though.
Got about 37.5 MPG at 70-75+ MPH (slowing down a little makes a big difference, huh?).
28 in town just going to work and back daily.

Cons: Doesn't ride like the Buick (DUH). Wimpy heat compared to the Buick (it would run you out of the car). Couldn't fit the snowblower in the trunk yesterday.

Leaves me wondering if I am part of the ongoing R&D team: This morning, the starter went ZING instead of cranking on the first try. Starter is ordered for install tomorrow.
Has had the "tighten gas cap" message once, for no apparent reason. (I think this issue is currently under investigation by Honda, there was a little message about it this morning on their site.)

I stumbled here by searching for hacking the MID display, and found the thread about reprogramming the defroster so the AC is controllable manually. I was hoping someone had figured out a hack to display engine and other data on the MID display. No luck yet.

mac25

Gear are you saying that honda replaced the trans on the 7th gen for free? is this still valid? my first gear is starting to slip on my auto 7th.

gearbox

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no they waited until after all the warranties expired before releasing the tsb on it. that way it is only for information purposes and they do not fix it for free. tsbs are only fixed free under warranty, otherwise you have to pay like normal. the solution to the slip is "replace the transmission" thats it. i used to have the file back a few yrs ago but lost it or deleted it. there was nothing there to really check, other than to verify the problem by driving the car, check the fluid, and then replace the whole thing. its good to see they are taking the engine block problem seriously on the 8thgens. i guess engine failure is a much bigger deal than trans failure.

ezone

Never heard of that. Not for everyone, anyway. Maybe as part of a goodwill gesture once in a while, but not the norm.

mac25

too bad, and thx for the info guys =D.

DatGUenvy

Like what bought a 07 si a month ago have to know so I can keep an eye!!

mac25

then your car should have a K series engine. it's the R's that crack.

RichD

First of all I purchased this car knowing that it had a REBUILT title because the previous owner side swiped a building. The accident caused damage on the drivers side front fender, door and slight rear quarter panel damage. It had no damage what so ever to the frame or suspension parts. I even had a certified mechanic put on a lift and verify this. While doing a all wheel alignment because of problems with the rear tires wearing out on the inside......the technician assured me that there was no damage to the frame.


PROBLEM: HONDA WILL NOT REPLACE MY ENGINE THAT HAS A CRACK IN THE ENGINE BLOCK EXACTLY WHERE THE THOUSANDS OF OTHER CIVIC ENGINES HAVE CRACKED BECAUSE OF THIS!! iF IT WAS A RECALL THE CUSTOMER REP SAID THEY WOULD REPLACE IT FREE.

Can you tell I'm pissed off?!!!

I know there are scammers out there....but I'm not one of them.....I'm a blue collar worker that works in the automotive business and had to take a job 45 minutes from my house....

I bought this Honda Civic thinking that I would be able to drive it for at least 5 more years...now it's sitting at the dealer with me not knowing what to do with it!!!

Quote:

Please Honda BACK YOUR PRODUCT UP!!!!!!!

Sincerly yours

Rich D

Gunner

Technicallities they use to save money..Sorry to hear man..try a different honda dealer and see if you get better luck with them..

ezone

I have yet to figure out why a simple accident, or even some of the other things I hear about like theft, would cause a title to be changed to salvage or rebuilt--- I mean, if the car wasn't damaged bad enough to cost so much that it was totaled and written off by the insurance company. I can certainly understand if that was the case, but many don't sound that bad.

Did the VIN report come back from Honda as having a branded title? (If the dealer denied warranty, then that must have been the case.)

RichD

Ezone....Yes it did come back as fixed, inspected and given a Rebuilt Title.

The Regional Rep even called the dealership and asked ?

Q. Was the VIN # tag stamped?...
A. Yes it was...

Q. Is the Engine block cracked where the problem is with the rest of the engines?
A. The very same area as the rest

Q. Is the frame damaged at all?
A. Our Tech checked it out as undamaged

Q. Is the car in good condition?
A. Yes very good condition

Q. How many miles does the car have on it?
A. 122K

Q. Is the customer a regular customer
A. Yes he is....

Regional rep say thank you to the Service manager and called to let me know my car would not be covered...WTH?!

Does anyone know how to contact John Mendel or Jeff Conrad , Honda Execs to further discuss this travesty??

MY LEG and what Honda's doin to me!

I understand if this turns into a recall Honda will replace my block for free....what does it take to turn into a recall?

Rich D
rdunno@frontier.com

ezone

I'm just a dumb mechanic.....Really, I have no idea what it takes to turn it into a recall unless the NHTSA decides to push the issue, but I doubt they get deeply involved since it seems it isn't a true safety problem.

Start a class action suit? Lawyers win.

RichD

Start a class action suit? Lawyers win.[/quote]

LOL....I once recieved a check for $1.90 for a class action lawsuit involving my Cell phone carrier......Lawers got something like $650k....?

Gunner

Go over the district manager and talk to the regional manager...or call hondas 800 number and see if they will help you out...or just try a different dealer..they might have a different point of view on the matter..

RichD

I have called Honda's customer service twice and talked to 2 Reps that were totally "programmed" to let me know that because my car has a rebuilt title that it will not be covered. They would not discuss the why they would not cover the engine....even though it has the same problem as the other thousands.

The engine did not get totalled.....the body did..... which just needed a front fender, door skin and slight repair to the rear quarter. That is it!

It's still a Honda.....it's a mistake that they should cover.

Anyone know one of the CEO's email address's? i'd like to send them an email.

RichD

RichD

https://picasaweb.google.com/117146328207127812463/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCNWhpcmavd6bxAE#570275490470 3898642

Checkout this picture of my cracked block....is this the same spot as the rest or them?

ezone

Hotlink to your pic:







That's one of the places they do it.



They can also crack on the back side of the block.

RichD

Here are some pic's of my cracked block on my 2006 Honda Civic

ezone

Pic fail? I don't see anything.

ezone

NEWS FLASH

I heard today, the warranty coverage on the engine block has been extended to 10 years from the original in-service date, for qualifying cars.

Will try to update if/when I get official info.

ezone

Confirmed. 10 years.

Tragedy

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Yup.

My 08 LX sedan had honda coolant leaking on the ground.

Took it to Honda, and they had a new block installed within two days free of charge.

Good service, and it was at 40k. So now the engine has lots of new new.