aaron_c

Hey guys, I've been reading on this website for a while just acquring general knowledge in my spare time, but now I have an actual reason to post. My parents told me that if I can get $10,000 saved up (in the fall probably), they'll buy me a new car/truck for college because of my scholarships and what not. Anyway, here are the questions I had:

1) How much interior room does the Si have? I'm 6'2", about 155lbs, do you think I'll have a problem fitting in the car?
2) How hard is it to put the new Si into the mid-14's?

I'm not even going to ask about reliability or quality, because it's a Honda. Anyway, thanks in advance for the replies everybody.

blue00si

i cant speak from experience but i dont think you'll have any problems with fitting in it but as far as the perf. aspect you will have NO PROBLEMS getting into the 14's cuz stock it cna do the 1/4 mile in 15.1 according to Edmonds and here is a link to support that:

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

id say with some really good tires alone and great launcing and shifting this is possible...i recommend the BFGoodrich g-force KDW's these are a EXTREMELY good tire and plenty sticky here is the site if you wanna check them out:
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/bfg/productIdSubmit.do

if nothing else throw on some slicks and i guarantee if your a decent driver 14's WONT be a problem...and for a drag radial i always recommend mickey thompson here is that link:
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/s...agSportCompact

but even with minor bolt ons such as header, CAI, cat back exhaust id say 14's all day long

kero

If you ask me and want a SI, go for the 4 door sedan SI!

I am 6'0, 162lbs and have no problem whatsoever fitting in my LX sedan!

aaron_c

Thanks for all the replies, guys. So with a header, cat-back, and CAI, I can run 14's pretty easy? I know the RSX guys have K-Pro, can you get this for the Si's yet? I've heard of RSX-S's breaking into the high 13's (13.98 or 13.99) with I/H/E and K-Pro, it seems somewhat reasonable I suppose, but I have no way of confirming it. I've also heard that the Si's 6-speed has the best clutch and shifter of just about any car, period. Do you guys feel like this is true?

Thanks

aaron_c

Oh, one other thing, I've also heard that these Honda 4-cylinder cars are hard to launch properly due to the lack of low-end torque, but the person who told me that owns a WS6 and hates 4 cylinder cars...so I was just curious, is this true?

blue00si

yay with I/H/E you should be able to run 14's all day long....now as far as the rsx-s's running 13's with those mods and kpro.....hum high 13's......yay id say that sounds reasonable...once again as far as personal experience but you can NEVER go wrong with a good 6 spd and honda's almost always have great clutches...hope this helps

aaron_c

Yep, that definitely helps man. So when something like Kpro comes out for the Civic, do you think I/H/E could get it into the really low 14's? I'm just curious, this won't have an impact on whether I buy the car or not.

Thanks for the replies so far, I appreciate it.

blue00si

most definately if not high 13's especially with better tires and stiffer springs and diff. struts

05blkrs

definately dont over look suspension and tires when it comes to the track... all the power in the world isn't any good if you can't hook.... and dont be discouraged if you run 15's even low 16's when you first get your car because it's about driving style too.....

aaron_c

Well, I've never owned a vehicle that wasn't a manual transmission, and rarely driven automatics, so I'm afraid I would be disappointed if I run a high 15 or worse, lol. That's ok though, it'll just make me work more on it until i get the times down. Don't these cars (or any cars, for that matter) tend to get faster as they get broken in?

05blkrs

definately

blue00si

and street racing and launcing off a drag strip "tree" is two TOTALLY diff. things it will take practice if youve never launced using a light tree

aaron_c

So how does the civic do with things like warm-up time? My truck takes about 15 minutes for the heat to even start blowing, but my girlfriends '06 S40 has warm air almost instantly. How is the Civic with things like this, and air conditioning/heat at idle? (my truck won't do either one at idle, it will just blow air that is about the same temp. as the air outside..)

blue00si

most smaller disp. motors have a harder time keeping the air REAL cold while idling i have yet to b in a 4 banger that keeps the air just as cold at idle as it does while driving as far as heating that will work just as good idling as driving but of course what be warm till the car warms up....as far as how long it takes the car to warm up that will depend on how long since you last started it up obviously if you just drove it a couple hours ago and its 90 degrees than it wont take no time but if its 30 degrees and been sitting all night it will take a could 15 mins to get to opertaing temp.....honestly if this makes or breaks the purchase of the si look else where cuz these are petty issues...but thats my opinion

aaron_c

Nah, it won't make or break the purchase, I was just curious about it. It will ultimately be up to my dad what I get, because he'll make the payments after I make the down payment. I want the Si, he wants me to get one of the new 4x4 Tacomas. Two VERY different vehicles, each has its own pros and cons. I guess if I end up with the Si, you'll probably know it because there will be new pics up in the members rides section lol.

blue00si

id use the fact the si will get MUCH better mpg than the tacoma plus hondas have excellent resale value and great reliability

aaron_c

Yeah, my argument will be gas mileage and the fact that it won't wonder all over the road like most 4x4's tend to do. Also, a fully-loaded Si with Nav. won't cost as much as a v6 4x4 Tacoma. Of course, he thinks 'sports car', and relates that to satan or something, so I dunno, we'll see how it goes lol. I also think the FJ Cruiser's are really cool, I'd probably rather have one of those than a Tacoma. Either way, I suppose I can't complain, because I'll be coming out with a pretty nice vehicle.

blue00si

get the si sedan.....that should diffuse that "sports car" idea...plus perf. wise there identical so you get the both of both worlds...perf. and 4 doors and you cant beat that...personally if i could have a identical car with 4drs id take it over a 2dr in most any case

aaron_c

The Si sedan and coupe are identical in performance? I'm mostly worried about acceleration, the nearest auto-x track is like 2.5 hours or so (at least), so I may never make it to an actual event...but if I pull up next to someone at a red light (and I have minor bolt-ons, I/H/E and maybe reflash) and they want to race or something, I want to at least be able to hold my own against them. It doesn't have to be a rocket, but to carry the 'sporty' image, it needs to be pretty quick.

Thanks for all the replies blue00si

blue00si

yep...the sedan only weighs like 68lbs more...thats less than what a sub and enclosure would weigh so no problems there...plus its that much more satisfying for you and humliating for them when they loose to a 4dr "grocerey getter"

aaron_c

Will my insurance rates be cheaper with the sedan? I tried to check on it with the Edmunds true cost to own thing, but they don't have the sedan on their site yet.

aaron_c

Oh yeah, two other quick questions...

1) My current vehicle (dodge dakota) is black, and I swear, sometimes I think the freaking air scratches it. Is Honda's black paint extremely prone to scratching like this, or is my black Dakota just a product of wonderful Dodge quality? lol

2) I have a picture of a Civic Si here from Comptechusa.com, can you tell just by looking what size wheels these are and/or how much it is lowered?

http://www.comptechusa.com/store/med...i-1024x768.jpg

Thanks again

blue00si

yes most any car if its offered in both coupe and sedan............the sedan most times will always be cheaper insurance

also no matter how good the paint is black is next to impossible to keep clean...DONT get black....personally i say you cant go wrong with white

i believe they come with 16's and the HFP(honda factory performance) wheels are 17's