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Old Jul 12, 2002
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got back from HASport

they have a 2001 EX sitting in their shop with a RSX-S motor and tranny sitting in the engine bay. Nothing lines up, not one mount. This was the first time they had a K20 sitting in a 01 and they where eye balling everything. the motor sits nice in there, but the A/C compresser WILL hit the hood. The pass side of the valve cover WILL hit the hood. A mix of axles will have to be used, the idea of custom axles was being floated around. The A/C lines and condencer from a RSX or Civic Si will have to be used since the compressor is on the other side of the motor. The power steering will have to be custom as the K20 does not have a pump bolted to it (since the RSX and Si have electric steering). There is about 1.5" of clearence from the intake manifold and the front radiator support, meaning the rear mount WILL have to be very stiff (lots of vibrations) so it won't hit. Wiring will have to change, but it will be all plug and play, as they looked it at, a RSX dash harness will plug right in. Its about 85 lbs heaver than the D17, but you'll never feel that.

Looks like it will work ok once they work out a few things. The HASport kit won't be out for sometime to come though...so enjoy those D17s for a while.

I'll try to post some pics of everything for you if they will let me.

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interesting, sounds like they're gonna do the k series swap like htown
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thanks for the update. it was very informative [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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Are they gonna use the RSX cluster??????? It will look nice if they did.......
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i don't know about you guys but it sounds like a sh*t load of money for that swap. the 2 things hitting the hood and then the small amount of clearance available for a turbocharger. it's almost like they made the type s motor for going NA, 11.5:1 damn that's the same as a F20C motor

EDIT: my mistake, the compression ratio of both cars is 11.0:1
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Sounds like you saw, god, whatshisname's car. Ah... htown. At least I think he was getting it done at HASport. The original thread is here and a continuation is here. I definatley suggest you get a frosty beverage and spend about 2 and a half hours reading through all of this. There's a lot to be learned on a K20A2 swap. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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why does everytime sumone talk about swaping..... i get mad and want to go blow honda up
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OK that's close but not entirely correct, so let me correct a couple of things.

The AC compressor clesrs with no problems. As for the condensor, we will probably have hoses made so that you could use the stock condensor. You may also be able to use the RSX condensor and hoses.

The axles are not custom, 02 Si axles can be used or if you desire to use the RSX knuckles and hubs the RSX axles will work.

The valve cover does not hit the hood, not even close.

The pulley from powersteering pump from the RSX engine hits the hood but you can remove some of the webbing and it will clear.

The intake manifold is close to the radiator/hoodlatch support, we will offer a rear mount with our kit to prevent contact. It will use our normal urethane and will not be excessively stiff, just slightly stiffer than stock. It will have very little vibration.

As for how long before the kit is ready, I'd say, a couple of months. The prototypes will be done soon.

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woops...

oh hey brian, cluster works great! but i didn't know the japanese clusters didn't let you adjust the brightness...weird.
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[hr]Originally posted by: briang
OK that's close but not entirely correct, so let me correct a couple of things.

The AC compressor clesrs with no problems. As for the condensor, we will probably have hoses made so that you could use the stock condensor. You may also be able to use the RSX condensor and hoses.

The axles are not custom, 02 Si axles can be used or if you desire to use the RSX knuckles and hubs the RSX axles will work.

The valve cover does not hit the hood, not even close.

The pulley from powersteering pump from the RSX engine hits the hood but you can remove some of the webbing and it will clear.

The intake manifold is close to the radiator/hoodlatch support, we will offer a rear mount with our kit to prevent contact. It will use our normal urethane and will not be excessively stiff, just slightly stiffer than stock. It will have very little vibration.

As for how long before the kit is ready, I'd say, a couple of months. The prototypes will be done soon.

brian g[hr]

AWESOME

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thanks!
my engine swap saving money... i wont be touching any more hahahahaha!
 
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