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Old 10-26-2008
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Question Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

Because when i talked to honda they said that it will throw off somthing and it voids my warrenty. But what im thinking is... that they are LIARS!!! haha and that i could just put the stock one back on if i ever needed to bring it in for a problem. DO you think it will hurt the car in any way other than just normal wear and tear from fast driving?
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

liars...

In fact, I misshift LESS with my short shifter.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

if ANYTHING itll void warranty on shift cables and the shifter itself...NOTHING else...liars
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

Liars. .
And like you said, if you have to take the car in for warranty work, just switch the stock shifter back in.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

If something went wrong, dont they have to PROVE that it was the fact that a short shifter was in there anyways?
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

I have had a Revo SS for three years no problems.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

REVO SS FTW! my fav mod besides my turbo back when i was boosted.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

What's the 8th gen set-up like though? Is it cables like the 7th gens?
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

Wears out synchros faster.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

^^ exactly how does a short shifter ruin the synchros in the short shifter? lol.

the only thing capable of wearing the synchros i think is: more power through the tranny, and the driver
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

Is this a good short shifter choice? or is there even much of a difference between brands? If so could you guys how me some better ones?



http://www.procivic.com/pages-produc...935/index.html
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

everything can void your warranty according to the stealership. I remember they said they would void my entire warranty if i upgraded to a rsx rear sway bar.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

I'm assuming the point of a short throw shifter is to make shifts quicker. If that is the case it is necessary to apply more force to the synchros to speed them up more quickly, causing increased wear. I guess you could do the same thing with a normal shifter and nothing about the short shifter inherently causes more wear its just how its used.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

i juss got the adaptor from dc sports. i dun like the short shift **** i got an 04 em2 and i dont want to end up hiting my elbow almost everytime i shift
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

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I'm assuming the point of a short throw shifter is to make shifts quicker. If that is the case it is necessary to apply more force to the synchros to speed them up more quickly, causing increased wear. I guess you could do the same thing with a normal shifter and nothing about the short shifter inherently causes more wear its just how its used.
Any HARD shift from a short shifter or OEM will wear synchros, but short shifters alone will not damage synchros.

panda, I had the DC sports adapter, but traded it for the REVO. I have to say, the REVO is much better than the adapter.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

Hmmm well then heres another question. Since it wears syncros down faster is it worth getting?
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

well honestly, i have romped on my car so hard.. the revo ss was my 2nd mod and back in the day i used to do a lot of drag racing. i was so noob back then, i shifted so hard i cant believe i didnt rip the stick out of the short shifter box. and my tranny still runs well. so i would say do it. its a really great mod for any car IMHO. and as everyone said before, just switch back to stock if your taking it in to the dealer.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

the short shifter is great but yes if you try to go to a honda dealer with it and you are complaining about shifting problems then they are going to tell you to have a nice day and make a note in the computer that you have a short shifter and that you no longer have warranty. even if you put it back to stock and try to go back a few weeks later its still in the computer. so do it and if you have problems put stock back and then go to the dealer.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

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Hmmm well then heres another question. Since it wears syncros down faster is it worth getting?
Did you NOT read what we said? It won't wear synchros faster. Hard shifts will.
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Re: Do short throw shifters hurt your car at all?

damned lying honda dealing bastard! get ur short throw shifter and make the change before taking it to the honda shop.. my friend has a 8th gen and hes been doing that since like march 07... he shifts o.d. hard so his synchro wears quik... think every couple months he goin in so u can imagine...
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