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Old 07-27-2005
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k20 swap vs. sti

does anyone know if a k20swap in our vic can take on a stage 1 turbo sti?
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k20 swap can take on a wrx and thats it, even than it still might loose. its a drivers race
As for an STI it would eat a swapped civic alive
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k20 swap can take on a wrx and thats it, even than it still might loose. its a drivers race
As for an STI it would eat a swapped civic alive
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i agree with whitecastle...........good call
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Ahhh so instead go K20 turbo swap!!!
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so even if the k20 is turbo charge, and comparing the weight btwn a vic and sti...it still wouldnt make any different? damn guess no more mod for vic..keep the money for an sti, but idk...modifying the vic cost less money and i can do more to it.
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If the k20 is boosted it will kill a wrx, and maby a sti.
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Ill put it to the test as soon as i get my car back. Supposively a k20 swapped civic will run 13.8s and depending if your talking about the k20A2 or the K20A theres a bout 20 hp difference, LSD, and different gear ratios. Plus being able to put that power to the ground with a suspenssion *i dont have* so you know.. I got the K20A so ill let you know how it fairs next time i take it out the track. Get back to yall on that one
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can someone kind of help me clear things up a little...
so a k20a2 = 210hp?
and k20a3 = 160hp?
and if dere is any other k20 plz list also.
back to my question...i was wondering a k20 type S motor turbo charge...could it beat an sti also and upgrade to stage one turbo.
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a2 = RSX - S so yes 210hp
a = Civic Si so yes 160hp
There r no other K20 series oh. K20a3(auto base rsx)motors as far as I know. There is a K24 (used in a TSX?(more tq than the A2 but I think it has less hp)

If u turbo a K20a2 you would have what, like 260hp? (i dont think it would be any more than that) you would probably still lose to the STI. get a TT K20a2 and that would be freeking crazy!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by CIVIC X3
so a k20a2 = 210hp?
and k20a3 = 160hp?
K20A3(02-05 Civic SI and RSX)=160 hp
K20A2(02-04 RSX-S)=200 hp
K20Z1(05 RSX-S)=210 hp
K20A(02-05 Civic type R)=220 hp
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^^^ right on all codes....i would turbo a k20a but go to like 16 psi....largeer intercooler..work on the ecu...some things here and there and you could get to 300 and beat an sti...but it will be a drivers race
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Originally Posted by knipple
K20A3(02-05 Civic SI and RSX)=160 hp
K20A2(02-04 RSX-S)=200 hp
K20Z1(05 RSX-S)=210 hp
K20A(02-05 Civic type R)=220 hp
he got it right
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wasnt icebergslim's car puttin down like 500+hp? k20a2 turbo
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n/a k20a2 swap will get owned completely.

a boosted swap will be a very good race
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Originally Posted by tuner04civic
^^^ right on all codes....i would turbo a k20a but go to like 16 psi....largeer intercooler..work on the ecu...some things here and there and you could get to 300 and beat an sti...but it will be a drivers race

yeah why does everyone like putting down big PSI numbers? You can beet an STI, with a low amount of boost, infact you would get a higher top end out of it, bigger numbers = faster acceleration. and if your going to do those big numbers might as well start with the cheepest block you can find and build it from the ground up. Ie sleeve it, pistons, rods, Cams, Wideband 02 sensor, head work, trubo, all that good stuff, + tunning, man oh man looking at a pretty penny to do it right...

Just get a k20A2 with a k20A tranny, I/H/E and a k-pro. Youll stand a fighting chance!

but anyways random bable.

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K20A 220@8000 152@7000 11.5:1 DC5R(JDM) 6spd yes Type 1 2.01
K20A2 200@7400 142@6000 11.1:1 DC5 Type-S 6spd no Type 1 2.01
K20A3 160@6500 141@4000 9.8:1 DC5 RSX 5spd no Type 2 2.01
K20A3 160@6500 141@4000 9.8:1 EP3 Civic Si 5spd no Type 2 2.01
K24A1 160@6000 161@3600 9.6:1 CRV 5spd no Type 2 2.41
K24A2 200@6800 166@4500 10.5:1 TSX 5spd no Type 1 2.41
K24A4 160@5500 161@4500 9.7:1 Element 5spd no Type 2 2.41
K24A4 160@5500 161@4500 9.7:1 Accord 5spd no Type 2 2.41


My friend has a swapped 2002 K20A2 in his civic but he has weight reduction and other mods, cant think of them right now and it keeps up with my friends STI, and when he shifts he pulls a bit, but its a tie race, and both are excellent drivers
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sti will have a civic with any of the k series swap for dinner. But if you turbo it, thats a different story...
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hmm...i guess i'll keep my vic...and do the k20 swap...it'll be a great laugh when a sti driver be lik "o shiet a vic keepin up with me" hahah. i aint scare to push my car either so yea...i tink i can put up a good race...i've had some good race with my old 91 prelude...i remember an sti pulled away from me, makin my car look lik it a turtle...which k20 swap would you guy recommend if money wasnt a problem?
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lol my friend rsx-s beat a stock wrx off the line and off a roll and all he had was a cai. I go to the track every now and then and when i go for some reason its the hondas that r always in the finals street or drag cars.............. go k20a2 turbo u wont regret it. I know the great things about awd and i know there are fast evos and sti's, but dont doubt on ur vic. Just gotta know wat ur doing and have some goals. Dont let front wheel drive be the reason to sell out.

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naw i wasnt gonna sell out...i was plannin to get a honda pilot if the vic couldnt match up or take the sti...but now that i know it can have a chance of matchin up then i'm going forward to modifying it. not anytime soon though...i'm plannin on burning out the d17 first then do the swap.
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since it's pretty close, it depends which k20 swap and which mods the wrx or sti have ... since 7thgens are ~200-300 pounds lighter than an rsx-s, have smaller wheels and only 4 lugs to lug, it wouldn't be fair to compare other cars' times to that of a type s.

a bolton k20a2 will not be as fast as an sti .. even from a roll. it will be a good race for a bolton wrx, afaik.

a bolton k20a3 will never be as fast as a well driven wrx ...

a bolton k20a will kill bolton wrx's and even beat stock sti's from a roll.
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well shouldnt a 5 lug conversation be made when swapin a k20 engine? dang i was plannin to get the k20a2...what car does the k20a come from? a civic type R hatch?
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yeah but you can get a K20A out of an ITR *DC5R* at least thats where i got mine
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well shouldnt a 5 lug conversation be made when swapin a k20 engine? dang i was plannin to get the k20a2...what car does the k20a come from? a civic type R hatch?
you don't need 5 lug to have a k20.

technically, the k20a comes from a jdm ep3r, jdm dc5r, jdm rsx is/type s ... and I think the jdm crv.

but the 220 ps version only comes in the jdm ep3r and dc5r ;P
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Originally Posted by knipple
K20A3(02-05 Civic SI and RSX)=160 hp
K20A2(02-04 RSX-S)=200 hp
K20Z1(05 RSX-S)=210 hp
K20A(02-05 Civic type R)=220 hp
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