Auto Transmission Rebuild (pics)
08-12-2006
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Auto Transmission Rebuild (pics)
I thought some of you would like to see what the 2nd gear clutch pack looks like when it’s dead. Note the blue and black friction disks which have no material left...
This is 4th. Notice no discoloration
Here is 2nd:
Disassembled:
Side by Side good and bad disk:
Sorry for the not so good pics, I don’t have my digicam rite now so I had to use my phone. I am rebuilding the transmission btw, not a shop. It was HondaLuver's before his swap.
This is 4th. Notice no discoloration
Here is 2nd:
Disassembled:
Side by Side good and bad disk:
Sorry for the not so good pics, I don’t have my digicam rite now so I had to use my phone. I am rebuilding the transmission btw, not a shop. It was HondaLuver's before his swap.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
nice pics. so are they really made of metal? haha
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Rep Power: 275 Here is the ATF filter, check out the black gunk around the edges of the screen. I wiped the center of it clean with a rag.
Here is where im stopping till I get the TCI overhaul kit and some OEM honda parts that I ordered.
Here is where im stopping till I get the TCI overhaul kit and some OEM honda parts that I ordered.
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Rep Power: 787 i would recommend getting the oem external filter kit. I've seen it on ebay and after seeing that filter, its a must or the new one will get messed up too.
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Rep Power: 275 HAHAH I would really like it to shift quicker but this is for my GF's car so I can't have as much fun. At least the TCI overhaul should help a bit.
When I reinstall it im gonna get a transmission cooler and an external filter
I want this thing to last 300K miles!
I think the main reason these fail is that the clutches are so small and they slip quite a bit just making the shift smooth. Notice the older civics dont have this prob but they shift really hard compared to the 7thgen.
When I reinstall it im gonna get a transmission cooler and an external filter
I want this thing to last 300K miles!I think the main reason these fail is that the clutches are so small and they slip quite a bit just making the shift smooth. Notice the older civics dont have this prob but they shift really hard compared to the 7thgen.
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Rep Power: 787 yea every trans shop tech tells me that its better for it to shift hard. the soft thing is not good for the trans and just some "feature" they did to make people feel better. i only have 50k and mine is slipping pretty bad 2-->3 before the fluid warms up. i've been hearing it maybe has another year left before it wont shift anymore 
and i have a cooler and changed fluid every 10k miles.
and i have a cooler and changed fluid every 10k miles. 
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Rep Power: 275 LOL its a REALLY big job and will probably take me a couple weeks. I will definatly keep taking pictures but I dont know if this is a DIY type of job. Plus I wouldnt wanna be responsible if someone screwed up their transmission using my DIY. 
. What I will be doing though, is once I put this in my GF's car I will rebuild her origional trans (slips pretty bad going from 1-2) and put it up for sale in socal.
. What I will be doing though, is once I put this in my GF's car I will rebuild her origional trans (slips pretty bad going from 1-2) and put it up for sale in socal. Last edited by dopes6070; 08-12-2006 at 10:26 PM.
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Rep Power: 269 wow....have fun gtrying to put it all back together......getting all those clutch packs to line up is a bitch!!! trust me i know, i re-build, overhaul, and diag trans for a living.........
but cool stuff.
but cool stuff.
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Rep Power: 275 ya I made sure I could put it back together before I ordered the parts for it. Its a pain.
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Rep Power: 275 if by gear rings you mean the clutch disks then yes the TCI master overhaul kit has those.
Here is an example of the red eagle clutches with the tci kit:
Here is an example of the red eagle clutches with the tci kit:
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Rep Power: 450 so what does the tci overhaul kit exactly do?
if you dont mind me asking
if you dont mind me asking
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Rep Power: 275 It's got all the clutch disks and plates. It also has all the seals o-rings and gaskets to put it back togehter. The clutch disks are what usually wears out in our transmissions.
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Rep Power: 275 Ok guys I have a small debate here.. I can get the OEM Honda transmission cooler for the HX CVT and the HX external filter. Or I can get A B&M cooler and external filter kit to use an engine oil filter.
Part #'s 10 and 14
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...ry5=ATF+COOLER
OR These:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
I am leaning towards this ^^ because it’s cheaper and I like the idea of the fine filter element... I dont know what the OEM filter element is.
Part #'s 10 and 14
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...ry5=ATF+COOLER
OR These:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
I am leaning towards this ^^ because it’s cheaper and I like the idea of the fine filter element... I dont know what the OEM filter element is.
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Rep Power: 787 I would try and get a B&M cooler, they will work better than oem due to design. There is an oem filter kit floating around ebay im not able to find it now tho.
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Originally Posted by dopes6070
if by gear rings you mean the clutch disks then yes the TCI master overhaul kit has those.
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Rep Power: 275 The trans cooler and filter should be to my house tomorrow and the overhaul kit by friday. So look forward to some more pics
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Rep Power: 309 AWESOMENESS!! my uncle came back from vacation about 2 weeks ago, but he didnt get my car towed to the shop till yesterday. LOL
my TCI kit came with a new filter thing too!
i cant wait to see what it shifts like after its rebuilt. Even after that though, im still scared to go turbo
my TCI kit came with a new filter thing too!
i cant wait to see what it shifts like after its rebuilt. Even after that though, im still scared to go turbo
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Rep Power: 363 I was the first to have the TCI kit installed and was boosting 16 psi along with that. if you just install that kit and fill up with redline fluid you will be good to go for many miles more. The external filter will always help but a tranny cooler I don't see any use for unless its boosted or being driven really hard which we all know the civic is slow
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Rep Power: 275 I checked the tranny fluid temp and it was very close to 200f so i figured a cooler could help some. (this is with it slipping)
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Rep Power: 0 a Honda dealership wouldnt put this over-haul kit on would they? 
they wouldnt even put an aftermarket clutch on my brothers 04 vic after he completely destroyed the stock one.
they wouldnt even put an aftermarket clutch on my brothers 04 vic after he completely destroyed the stock one.
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Rep Power: 246 ^yea i highly doubt honda would even do anything. i called a local shop to see how much they would do it(performance shop) and they gave me pretty good quote of about $300.
lookin at the clutch disks and plates i have they arent too big...i hope i did get the right kit. i can grab some pics of the clutches if u guys want. anyone know how big these clutch and plates are? also does anyone know wat rpm the stage 2 of the tc upgrade from level ten is increased by? sorry if this is thread jacking
lookin at the clutch disks and plates i have they arent too big...i hope i did get the right kit. i can grab some pics of the clutches if u guys want. anyone know how big these clutch and plates are? also does anyone know wat rpm the stage 2 of the tc upgrade from level ten is increased by? sorry if this is thread jacking
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Originally Posted by RHCP0801
haha lol i doubt it, unless you know someone who works there and agree to it
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^yea i highly doubt honda would even do anything. i called a local shop to see how much they would do it(performance shop) and they gave me pretty good quote of about $300.
lookin at the clutch disks and plates i have they arent too big...i hope i did get the right kit. i can grab some pics of the clutches if u guys want. anyone know how big these clutch and plates are? also does anyone know wat rpm the stage 2 of the tc upgrade from level ten is increased by? sorry if this is thread jacking
lookin at the clutch disks and plates i have they arent too big...i hope i did get the right kit. i can grab some pics of the clutches if u guys want. anyone know how big these clutch and plates are? also does anyone know wat rpm the stage 2 of the tc upgrade from level ten is increased by? sorry if this is thread jacking
