DIY: Trunk Shocks
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Ordered with 50# shocks. I've only been wanting to do this since 2003. Post # 35 was me inquiring about these. . LOL
I'll do pictures when I install.
I'll do pictures when I install.
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lol...i ordered the kit from mcmastercarr in 2004...at the time, i was a bit lazy so i ended up selling them to someone else who really needed the parts...
fast forward a few years and my trunk springs started to rattle...the plastic bracket/clip at the center of the trunk springs also broke...sound deadening fixed the rattle temporarily but i still hated the torsion springs...on top of that, i found out mcmaster car would no longer ship to Canada so i was kinda SOL
i recently got off my *** and started to do some research of my own to figure out what other parts would work for the trunk spring mod. local automotive shops sold gas shocks but their parts didn't have the necessary stroke or lengths i needed...other shops wanted way too much money for the parts. i ended up finding a local guy that sold and serviced gas struts for a living. his entire buisiness was just gas struts..
this guy is totally awesome...he really knew his stuff and was very willing to help when i encountered problems. on top of that, his prices were totally reasonable. he also does custom valving because he services struts too. he offered to revalve mine to add more damping. more damping is great because it would allow me to keep the same lb force spec while making the trunk lid move more slowly to prevent it from boucing off of the bump stop.
i'll post more info w/ part numbers after my install is finalized...hopefully this will help the guys in Canada obtain parts since mcmaster won't ship to us anymore.
fast forward a few years and my trunk springs started to rattle...the plastic bracket/clip at the center of the trunk springs also broke...sound deadening fixed the rattle temporarily but i still hated the torsion springs...on top of that, i found out mcmaster car would no longer ship to Canada so i was kinda SOL
i recently got off my *** and started to do some research of my own to figure out what other parts would work for the trunk spring mod. local automotive shops sold gas shocks but their parts didn't have the necessary stroke or lengths i needed...other shops wanted way too much money for the parts. i ended up finding a local guy that sold and serviced gas struts for a living. his entire buisiness was just gas struts..
this guy is totally awesome...he really knew his stuff and was very willing to help when i encountered problems. on top of that, his prices were totally reasonable. he also does custom valving because he services struts too. he offered to revalve mine to add more damping. more damping is great because it would allow me to keep the same lb force spec while making the trunk lid move more slowly to prevent it from boucing off of the bump stop.
i'll post more info w/ part numbers after my install is finalized...hopefully this will help the guys in Canada obtain parts since mcmaster won't ship to us anymore.
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so.. I have a Kaminari KTR-II wing.. I just tried to do this install and found out that 90# shocks are too strong.. lol..
with that said, has anyone else (post gas-shock install) had problems having their trunk not sit flush when closed? Or is that just a by-product of having gas shocks that are too strong..?
with that said, has anyone else (post gas-shock install) had problems having their trunk not sit flush when closed? Or is that just a by-product of having gas shocks that are too strong..?
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well, for one, I started mounting them in kind of a bad place.. i shoulda cut some cardboard pieces and played around a bit before drilling 20-gajillion holes all over my trunk.. I was trying to use grey's pictures for reference, saw 2 holes, drilled between the two about an inch off from one, and ended up using the wrong 2 holes...
the amount of force those shocks were putting at that particular spot was causing the front end of my trunk (closest to the rear window) to not sit flush by about a quarter inch..
i went and ordered a set of 60# shocks and when those show up, i'm gonna play around with some cardboard cutouts a bit more before re-drilling..
just means this is gonna be a project for another day.. makes me a sad panda, seeing as how my trunk can potentially kill me due to the lack of trunk springs and a kaminari wing.. damn you inifinity for making good sounding speakers..
the amount of force those shocks were putting at that particular spot was causing the front end of my trunk (closest to the rear window) to not sit flush by about a quarter inch..
i went and ordered a set of 60# shocks and when those show up, i'm gonna play around with some cardboard cutouts a bit more before re-drilling..
just means this is gonna be a project for another day.. makes me a sad panda, seeing as how my trunk can potentially kill me due to the lack of trunk springs and a kaminari wing.. damn you inifinity for making good sounding speakers..
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Alright.. so I got my 60# shocks in and installed.. When I turn the key or pop the trunk from the inside, it lifts the trunk up about 4 inches, and if I lift the trunk, it'll stay in the position it's in. Trunk opens all the way, closes all the way.. Cool.. here's my problem now..
I don't see how messing with the rubber bump stops will help this one..
When I go into the trunk, sunlight is visible, so.. that means rain will be able to go into my trunk and potentially mess up my sound system..
Any suggestions anyone?
p.s. yes, my car is dirty.. shaddup.. it's been sporadically raining here in goo ol' WA state.. hence my concern..
I don't see how messing with the rubber bump stops will help this one..
When I go into the trunk, sunlight is visible, so.. that means rain will be able to go into my trunk and potentially mess up my sound system..
Any suggestions anyone?
p.s. yes, my car is dirty.. shaddup.. it's been sporadically raining here in goo ol' WA state.. hence my concern..
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lol...i ordered the kit from mcmastercarr in 2004...at the time, i was a bit lazy so i ended up selling them to someone else who really needed the parts...
fast forward a few years and my trunk springs started to rattle...the plastic bracket/clip at the center of the trunk springs also broke...sound deadening fixed the rattle temporarily but i still hated the torsion springs...on top of that, i found out mcmaster car would no longer ship to Canada so i was kinda SOL
i recently got off my *** and started to do some research of my own to figure out what other parts would work for the trunk spring mod. local automotive shops sold gas shocks but their parts didn't have the necessary stroke or lengths i needed...other shops wanted way too much money for the parts. i ended up finding a local guy that sold and serviced gas struts for a living. his entire buisiness was just gas struts..
this guy is totally awesome...he really knew his stuff and was very willing to help when i encountered problems. on top of that, his prices were totally reasonable. he also does custom valving because he services struts too. he offered to revalve mine to add more damping. more damping is great because it would allow me to keep the same lb force spec while making the trunk lid move more slowly to prevent it from boucing off of the bump stop.
i'll post more info w/ part numbers after my install is finalized...hopefully this will help the guys in Canada obtain parts since mcmaster won't ship to us anymore.
fast forward a few years and my trunk springs started to rattle...the plastic bracket/clip at the center of the trunk springs also broke...sound deadening fixed the rattle temporarily but i still hated the torsion springs...on top of that, i found out mcmaster car would no longer ship to Canada so i was kinda SOL
i recently got off my *** and started to do some research of my own to figure out what other parts would work for the trunk spring mod. local automotive shops sold gas shocks but their parts didn't have the necessary stroke or lengths i needed...other shops wanted way too much money for the parts. i ended up finding a local guy that sold and serviced gas struts for a living. his entire buisiness was just gas struts..
this guy is totally awesome...he really knew his stuff and was very willing to help when i encountered problems. on top of that, his prices were totally reasonable. he also does custom valving because he services struts too. he offered to revalve mine to add more damping. more damping is great because it would allow me to keep the same lb force spec while making the trunk lid move more slowly to prevent it from boucing off of the bump stop.
i'll post more info w/ part numbers after my install is finalized...hopefully this will help the guys in Canada obtain parts since mcmaster won't ship to us anymore.
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Just got the denial email reply, they still won't ship to Canada. Any of the old school members here want to provide me their shipping address so I can have this shipped to them and then you ship it to me? Got to be a regular member I know and trust with $50.
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im quite interested in doing this, but when i view the beginning of the thread, none of the pics show up with the actual DIY, just a little box with a question mark in it. any way to get those pics back up?
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yes. the pics dont work. i wana do this too as the suports for the trunk lid tourtion bars are bending and the center one broke from the subs. besides w/o those damn bars i can finaly get some diecent 6x9 speakers that will fit!
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I saved this (and all of Grey's other DIYs) to a word .doc way back in the day.
Here are the pictures in order. There were seven of them. If any of the ghost mods are still around, feel free to use my hosting to put them back in Grey's original post.
Here are the pictures in order. There were seven of them. If any of the ghost mods are still around, feel free to use my hosting to put them back in Grey's original post.
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So here's what I spent the day doing:
- move all required tools from basement to garage
- have a beer
- forgot laptop. Go get it so I can read the trunk shock DIY.
- grab a drill bit, drill a hole, crack off the drill bit because it's too thin.
- get a bigger drill bit, try again
- drill 3 holes to mount ball plate.
- get bigger drill bit to drill pilot hole for tap
- drill's dead, look for something else to do for 5 hours while it recharges.
- have a beer
- reinstall car computer with new parts you just got
- realize you're still missing parts, can't install computer
- while waiting for drill to charge and computer store to open, get 6x9 speakers to install
- try to remove rear deck from car.
- too hard, look up DIY on civicforums.com
- remove all interior panels from rear of car. Remove rear seats. Remove speakers.
- Too tired to continue, go inside, have a beer.
Holy crap, my car's all over the garage and I got nothing accomplished. Hopefully I'll get the trunk shocks finished up tomorrow after the drill's charged.
- move all required tools from basement to garage
- have a beer
- forgot laptop. Go get it so I can read the trunk shock DIY.
- grab a drill bit, drill a hole, crack off the drill bit because it's too thin.
- get a bigger drill bit, try again
- drill 3 holes to mount ball plate.
- get bigger drill bit to drill pilot hole for tap
- drill's dead, look for something else to do for 5 hours while it recharges.
- have a beer
- reinstall car computer with new parts you just got
- realize you're still missing parts, can't install computer
- while waiting for drill to charge and computer store to open, get 6x9 speakers to install
- try to remove rear deck from car.
- too hard, look up DIY on civicforums.com
- remove all interior panels from rear of car. Remove rear seats. Remove speakers.
- Too tired to continue, go inside, have a beer.
Holy crap, my car's all over the garage and I got nothing accomplished. Hopefully I'll get the trunk shocks finished up tomorrow after the drill's charged.
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haha, drilled a hole too far back and had to drill another one. I got them installed though. I left the trunk springs in originally and when I opened the trunk it shot up like a catapult with the 50 pound shocks. So I pulled out the springs, almost breaking my hands in the process, and now when I open the trunk it raises up nice and slow on its own. I like these!
EDIT - And a huuuuuuuuge thanks to Speedfoos for letting me ship 2 of these kits to him and then shipping them up to Canada for me. Stupid McMaster-Carr doesn't ship to Canada. Thanks a pile, dude.
EDIT 2 - I just realized when I put the custom trunk enclosure I built back into the trunk, my subwoofer won't fit snug up against the trunk arm on the right side because the air shock is there. FUUUUUUUUUUUU$@#%^*&*&^%$#%^&%$#@#@!!#$^*!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
EDIT - And a huuuuuuuuge thanks to Speedfoos for letting me ship 2 of these kits to him and then shipping them up to Canada for me. Stupid McMaster-Carr doesn't ship to Canada. Thanks a pile, dude.
EDIT 2 - I just realized when I put the custom trunk enclosure I built back into the trunk, my subwoofer won't fit snug up against the trunk arm on the right side because the air shock is there. FUUUUUUUUUUUU$@#%^*&*&^%$#%^&%$#@#@!!#$^*!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
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I know this is an old thread, I don't care because it doesn't answer my question. Yes I did search though....
I am guessing there is two struts? One per side.... Also does anyone have a definitive answer what lb springs to use. I am getting extremely sick of opening my trunk with a key two or three times to get a couple things out of the trunk because it keeps slamming back down and closing... The torsion springs are there, they are just weak.
I am guessing there is two struts? One per side.... Also does anyone have a definitive answer what lb springs to use. I am getting extremely sick of opening my trunk with a key two or three times to get a couple things out of the trunk because it keeps slamming back down and closing... The torsion springs are there, they are just weak.
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Just giving this thread some life since I think it's still relevant and I actually just did mine today! I have a factory spoiler on mine and the 50lb shocks worked just fine! I did have to redrill a few times to get the placement right but once I figured it out it took me about 5 minutes to do the other side. Thanks for the DIY!
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I think this is going to be something I'll be doing in the near-ish future. I had to use the spacers that came with my Polk Audio db691's to lift them up enough to clear those damn torsion bars (well, on the passenger side anyway, so I did it on both), which meant I had to use the screws that came with them instead of the stock ones. Left sharp screw tips sticking a fair ways up, probably contributed to why the deck was a bitch to get back in and the 4 rearward white panel pops kept coming out, etc. Deck currently is sitting with only the forward 3 in place. Changing to these shocks would allow me to remove the spacers and use the OEM bolts.
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