gearbox

iTrader: (95)

did you adjust the dimmer switch on the cluster? it might just be low and it has memory for both lights on and off. so you can have it bright during the day and dim at night when the lights are on.

02SILVEREX

iTrader: (2)

Do you still have the pinout? Or if anyone else has one.....


Ok, um I'm not awake yet... I found it sorry...

mephisto

New to the forums!! just bought an 04 civic last month and looking to make some improvements.

Alright so I did my reading on cluster swaps as much as I could. I have a 2004 Civic Value (DX) with 5-speed manual.
I want to buy a 2004 EX dash cluster to replace it with. Just would like two questions answered:

1.) Am I going to have to reset that "SRS" light, or whatever everyone else was talking about? or is that if I screw something up?

2.) What is a Speedo shop? Do I have one of t hose around here? what would be a speedo shop in your area, and how much do they normally charge? We have a Honda garage, would they do it there? I would really like my mileage to stay at 10,400 and not 40,000 from some guy who just travelled from California to New York 3 times in a year.

Thanks a bunch!

Shpoo

I just picked up a cluster for my 01 EX. However, I noticed that near the numbers around speedo and tach some of them have red trim and others with blue. Did Honda change colors for different years or are they from two different models?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

i like red better and yes the red is from the coupe (also has slanty numbers) and sedan is blue. Its easier to match the red cluster with dash lights.

my sedan dash. also the alpine 9847 deck matches perfectly

Shpoo

Thanks!

luciferi

ground the wire for the abs light and it will turn off.

luciferi

Has anyone used a hybrid cluster?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

no way too complicated and half of it wouldn't even work work the ima. kinda stupid imo and i'm sure the wires are different too. so maybe you could look at the diagrams and make a diy, but you still have only part of the cluster working.

jayrck81

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Bringing the thread back... sorry
Ive had my 03 ex cluster in for a month now and still havent fixed my problem.

Climate lights dont come on when head lights are on
ABs light is always on

ABS should be easy to fix by just grounding that wire, but i do not know which wire the abs is

Also, for the climate control lights on the dash, i need to know what wire from the 01 dx goes to them, and what wire from the ex cluster it should be connected to. I kind of did a wierd swap, I cut the plugs off from my car (01 dx) and found plugs with wires all ready in them from a 03 ex and spliced them to my car. heres a picture of it so you can get what im saying.

Any help would be great. thanks

jayrck81

iTrader: (2)

bump, any help??

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

is your dimmer turned up? simple fix for abs is put electrical tape behind the icon. thats what i did for cruise cause i didn't like the green color. if you follow the diagram, it should work. the only problem i had was the oil light doesn't work. maybe a problem with the cluster cause i have the wire connected and the other two lights work that are connected to it...

jayrck81

iTrader: (2)

Yeah, im not worried about the abd light, i have figured out how to turn it off by grounding it.

Ive checked the dimmer (your talking about the dimmer on the cluster it self right) ive turned it all the way up and down and the climate control lights never come on.

I guess i need to figure out what wire from the car goes to those lights and what wire from the cluster is suppoed to supply them with light.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

go borrow the honda electrical manual. it will tell you what all the wires mean.

jayrck81

iTrader: (2)

These are the ones from the 03 cluster:
Red/Black: Supplies 12V+ for dash backlights
Red: Supplies switched ground for dash lights

Are they the ame color wires for the 01?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

i remember the red/black being power that turns on with the parking lights but does not dim. well the wires ARE the same because they are the same wires in your car. all you did was put them in different pins (because the new cluster has a different pin layout). the wire function stays the same.

jayrck81

iTrader: (2)

Ok, well this is what i got. wiring from 01 DX and wiring from 03. Anything that is grayed out is not used on the other one. The orange one is for abs and is obvisouly not in a dx or lx therefore it is not used, you should be able to ground that wire to turn it off.



01 DX: BLUE PLUG:
Red/Blue ------------------Combination light switch
Red/Yellow ----------------From no 15 fuse under hood
Black/Red
Green/Black
Blue/Black
White/Red -----------------From no 9 fuse under hood
White
Green/Yellow --------------Right turn signal indicator
Green/Red :----------------Left turn signal indicator
Pink -----------------------From SRS unit
Red/Black -----------------Supplies 12V+ for dash backlights
Red -----------------------Supplies switched ground for dash lights
Black ----------------------Ground
Yellow/Red ----------------From oil pres switch
Green/Orange -------------From ECM/PCM
Blue/Orange ---------------Immobilizer control unit

01 DX: GREEN PLUG
White/Green --------------From multiplex control unit
Yellow/Black :-------------From fuel level sending unit
Blue/White ----------------From ECM/PCM And VSS input signal
Blue ----------------------From ECM/PCM, Tach input signal
Black ---------------------Ground
Yellow --------------------Switched 12V+
White/Red ----------------Constant 12 v +
Pink/Blue -----------------OPDS unit (Side airbags)

03 EX: BLUE Connector:
Black: --------------------Ground
Green/Orange: ------------From ECM/PCM
Blue/Red: -----------------From ABS Control unit
Pink: ---------------------From SRS unit
Red/Black: ----------------Supplies 12V+ for dash backlights
Red: ----------------------Supplies switched ground for dash lights
Green/Red:----------------Left turn signal indicator
Green/Yellow: -------------Right turn signal indicator
Red/Blue: -----------------Combination light switch
Blue/Orange: --------------Immobilizer control unit
Red/Yellow: ---------------From no 15 fuse under hood
White/Red: ----------------From no 9 fuse under hood
Yellow/Red: ---------------From oil pres switch

03 EX: GREEN Connector:
Blue: ---------------------From ECM/PCM, Tach input signal
White/Red: ---------------Constant 12 v +
Yellow: -------------------Switched 12V+
Blue/White: ---------------From ECM/PCM And VSS input signal
Yellow/Black:--------------From fuel level sending unit
White/Green: -------------From multiplex control unit
Black: --------------------Ground
Pink: ---------------------(Canada Vehicles only) Washer fluid level switch
White/Blue: ---------------(Canada Vehicles only) DRL Control unit
Black/Yellow: -------------Security control unit
Blue/Yellow: --------------Cruise control unit
Pink/Blue: -----------------OPDS unit (Side airbags)

luciferi

The correct pin locations for the dimmer wires are

Red/blk green A connector pin 14
red blue B connector pin 12

Verify that is where you put them

sil04ver

iTrader: (1)

Back to that plug-n-play idea, if somebody came up with one I would definately purchase, Im sure you could sell a couple for sure.

kickoo

what does VP stand for?

02SILVEREX

iTrader: (2)

I belive it's Value Package.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

MMILX

Wow, this is a good thread. I'm up the road in Austin, with my 01 LX. If I ever get around to getting an 03 LX cluster, could I hit you up for some wiring help? I'll make a drive to Houston for a weekend to come back with a cool looking cluster

You definitely seem to know your stuff.

hi2nr

thats koo, just give me a call 832 758 4014 if your in town and ill do your swap free of charge in less then a hour...

02SILVEREX

iTrader: (2)

hi2nr: Watch your ######!!!! That should have been PM'ed.... I'd remove it for safety if I were you.

jayrck81

iTrader: (2)

Still never got my abs light turned off. What is the correct pin location for the (Blue/Red) ABS Control unit on the 2003 EX. Thanks. Once i can find out what pin location it should go in I can ground it and the light will turn off.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

i'm not sure but check the honda electrical manual. they'll let you borrow it. oh and my oil light is working again no reason! but yay.

KwikSilver04

iTrader: (3)

will the 04-05 ex guage fit right up to my 05 vp?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

yup! all you have to do is re-pin the connectors. pull out wires and put em in different positions. then it just plugs in. look at the wire diagram. but if you want a direct swap, only 01-02 will swap without rewiring. Or you can just wait til I make some nice looking clusters. I'm getting two dx/vp clusters in that i'm gonna make indiglo gauge for and also custom one up in blue leds and everything

bikeman185

Is it possible to swap a 03 ex auto cluster
into a 01 civic dx without a tach?
thanks

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

yea thats what this thread is about. you just need to re-pin the connectors.