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Old 08-02-2007   #16 (permalink)
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Re: stupid cops

I also live in maryland.

I have 2.5" pipe back from the cat and no muffler and no resinator. And I have not had any Problems. And I've been pulled over multiple times.

What you need to do is take your ticket down to your local police station and ask to see the code that the cop gave you a ticket for.

It's probably a state law, so you might want to head off to a state troopers barracks. I've heard that libraries also have them.

The books are called Ordinace manuals or something similiar. I only had to do it once.

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Also Dex, WTF? I do 48mph in 5th gear all the time. What do you keep your rpm's at 5k or something?

I have an HX which is geared a little different, but there is nothing wrong with driving at 2.5k to 3k rpms.

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Re: stupid cops

Here is a Link to COMAR (Code of Maryland)

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/sub...htm#Subtitle13

I think you are in section 11.14.07 (Noise Abatement)

From a breif scan of that, it looks like the cop was full of doo doo.

Like I said, you have to look on the ticket and find the exact law that they say you violated.

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Also Dex, WTF? I do 48mph in 5th gear all the time. What do you keep your rpm's at 5k or something?

I have an HX which is geared a little different, but there is nothing wrong with driving at 2.5k to 3k rpms.
haha, just clued in that it's miles and not kilometers! Canadians.....
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Lol, I thought on that on my way home that day .

48kmh woulda been like 30mph and yeah, 30mph in 5th gear would be flame worthy.
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Re: stupid cops

the ticket says using device on motor vehicle exhaust causing excessive noise. but i never got a repair statement. what should i do jacks?
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Re: stupid cops

Just get an exhaust tip like me. It's a neat little accent without all the noise. Plus when everyone asks me thinking they're funny....

"Oh you suped up your car? Does it have an exhaust can on the back? WAAAAAAAAAAA. *laff*"

Then I can be like.. "NO." And then they stop laughing. It's great.
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the ticket says using device on motor vehicle exhaust causing excessive noise. but i never got a repair statement. what should i do jacks?

Sorry for the late replay

There should be some kinda of number associated with the ticket.
This number is the ordinance number that you violated. Mostly they have a really weird dollar sign looking thing in front of them.

You have to find out the exact law that you broke.

Sounds weird to me, and exhaust is not a 'device'. to me a device implies something that is not permanently part of the car.

okay i looked it up in the dictionary a 'device' implys mechanical or electric parts, an exhaust has neither.

first thing first, find that number
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Sorry for the late replay

There should be some kinda of number associated with the ticket.
This number is the ordinance number that you violated. Mostly they have a really weird dollar sign looking thing in front of them.

You have to find out the exact law that you broke.

Sounds weird to me, and exhaust is not a 'device'. to me a device implies something that is not permanently part of the car.

okay i looked it up in the dictionary a 'device' implys mechanical or electric parts, an exhaust has neither.

first thing first, find that number
The only definition of "device" that matters is how Marylend defines it in the Transportation Article (see below).

Like 4Jacks stated you need to provide the article and section you were cited under, but my guess is the Trooper/Police Officer cited you under the following section of Maryland Transportation Articles http://http://www.dsd.state.md.us/co...sportIndex.htm

Article - Transportation
§22–402.

(a) Every motor vehicle with an internal combustion engine shall be equipped with an exhaust muffler system in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise, and no person may use a muffler cutout, bypass, or similar device on a motor vehicle on a highway. Noise levels in excess of those adopted by the Administrator under § 22-601 of this title are excessive.
(b) A person may not use on the exhaust or “tail pipe” of a motor vehicle any extension or other device to cause excessive or unusual noise.
(c) (1) No motor vehicle may be operated, nor may the owner or lessee of a motor vehicle permit it to be operated, on any highway in this State unless the engine power and exhaust mechanism is equipped, adjusted, and operated to prevent:
(i) The discharge of clearly visible smoke (comparable to smoke equal to or darker in shade than that designated as No. 1 of the Ringelmann Chart as published by the U.S. Bureau of Mines) in the exhaust emissions within the proximity of the exhaust outlet for more than 10 consecutive seconds; and
(ii) The discharge of smoke from any other part of the engine in such amounts and of such opacity as to partially obscure persons or objects from view.
(2) In this subsection, “smoke” means small gasborne and airborne particles, exclusive of water vapor, from a process of combustion in sufficient numbers to be observable.
(3) A motor vehicle engine may not be allowed to operate for more than 5 consecutive minutes when the vehicle is not in motion, except as follows:
(i) When a vehicle is forced to remain motionless because of traffic conditions or mechanical difficulties over which the operator has no control;
(ii) When it is necessary to operate heating and cooling or auxiliary equipment installed on the vehicle;
(iii) To bring the vehicle to the manufacturer’s recommended operating temperature; or
(iv) When it is necessary to accomplish the intended use of the vehicle.
(4) For a period of 1 year from July 1, 1971, this subsection shall be enforced by issuance of a warning. One year from July 1, 1971, it shall be enforced in the same manner as other violations of this section.
(5) This subsection does not apply to Class L (historic) vehicles.
(d) In this section, “muffler” means a device designed for and effective in reducing noise while permitting the flow of gases.
(e) All mufflers and exhaust pipes carrying exhaust gases from the motor shall be of leakproof construction.


§22–601.
(a) With the endorsement of the Secretary of Transportation and the Secretary of the Environment and after a public hearing following 60 days’ notice, the Administrator shall adopt regulations that establish maximum sound level limits for the operation on the highways in this State of each type of motor vehicle or combination of vehicles.
(b) In establishing limits under this section, the Administrator shall:
(1) Consider any noise emission regulations established under federal law for motor carriers engaged in interstate commerce; and
(2) Set the limits at the most restrictive level that, through the application of the best available technology at a reasonable cost, is consistent with attaining the environmental noise standards adopted by the Department of the Environment.

§22–609.
(a) A person may not modify the exhaust system or any other noise abatement device of a motor vehicle driven or to be driven on any highway in this State in such a way that the noise emitted by the vehicle exceeds that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
(b) A person may not drive on any highway in this State a motor vehicle with an exhaust system or noise abatement device modified in a way prohibited by subsection (a) of this section.

With all that said ... the fine is a $60.00/no points violation ... you can pay it and continue on as you are, you just have to know you could be cited again for the violation. Or if given an Equipment Repair Order in the future, you may have to fix it to avoid having your registration suspended.

Hope this helps some ...
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Re: stupid cops

this is off topic but
i went to a wendys to eat with some friends. in the parking lot, i parked my car sideways (looking cool). it was about 11 at night, there was probibly 2 other cars in the lot, so i figured itd be alright. so im inside with my friends eating a burger. im sitting next to the window and i look across the street and see a cop sitting in the median of the 4 lane intersection. looked like he was kinda scoping my car out. i turned to my friend ryan and said "watch this cop is ganna pull over here and rip a ticket bc of how im parked". so we got up went out side and we stood there for a minute. i was waiting to see what he wanted to do. i lit up a cig. and wouldnt ya know it? he pulls up behind my car and starts playing on his computer, running my tag.

i told my buddy "i bet you 50 bucks i can get out of this ticket".

so i walk over to his car and i ask "is there something wrong with my car?"



he says im not suppose to be parked like that

i lied my ass off and said "oh sorry sir, i didnt know. i can move it if you want?"

he said (in a real dick head tone) "yea cuz i was just about to write you a ticket"

so he backed up and pulled out. i was curious why he didnt write a ticket to the corvette parked the same way at the discount auto parts next door.

i won 50 bucks tho

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its cause your a ricer lol
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