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Old 09-14-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy ** Speeding Ticket... NEED ADVICE **

F***.. Just got a ticket for going 71 in a 50. This may sound typical, but I was not going 71. I know I was speeding, but I was going around 65.

My question is, what are my options?

Something else too, I've never gotten a ticket before, so i'm not sure how this works... theres no date on the ticket that says when I have to pay it by.. is that right?

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oh, for anyone curious, I got it on Middlefield turning onto Highglen... for the Markham people..... SH*T!!!
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i don't mind paying the fine, but I just don't want any points deducted.. basically, I'll pay the fine, but I don't want my insurance to go up
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dont pay man...i was in the same situation....fight it......
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20 over is, what, 2 points? If you feel lucky, you can deny the charge and go to court to pray the cop won't show. If you really want to avoid problems, pay a ticket fighter and get it cleared. Success rate usually much higher with a ticket fighter, but be prepared, they charge from $200-$400, and depending on how popular some smaller ones might even fight free if they fail... But then again, you dun wanna risk right?
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20 over is 3 points. i got a ticket for 70 in a 50 and it was $100 and 3 points. you got like 2 weeks to reply but no matter what i would fight it. even though the cop does show up in court they usually give you some kind of deal if you know what to say, especially if it was only your first ticket.

me personally had two tickets on the same day a while back one for speeding 89 in a 50 and another for failing to provide insurance card. he reduced it on the spot to 20 over but i still decided to fight it even though i knew i wasnt going to win. in court the cop did show up but after talking to him we went up to the procecutor and she said since it was already reduced on the spot she couldnt do anything about that anymore but she was willing to drop the insurance card thing if i paid the speeding ticket. so i just decided to do that.

in the end instead of having to pay $370 for speeding and insurance i just had to pay 100 which isnt that bad, but if you were just going 70 in a 50 im pretty sure you can work something out. i had some friends in similar situations as you and when they fought it in court the prosecutor sometimes drops it to 15 over so theres no points but you have to pay like 40 dollars or something.

hrmmm hope this helps somewhat, but no matter what put that sucka in the mail right away saying your going to fight it, my lazy father got a ticket for speeding and never replied and got his liscence revoked for a month or something so i had to drive his but around that time.
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Go to the Justice of the Peace and tell him your story. He will most likely take off the points and reduce the fine. Especially if you have a clean record. Good Luck, and sorry to hear about the ticket. Im surprised he nailed you in the 20km over range. Usually they dont pull you over unless you're going well over that.
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where is the justice of the peace? O_o

.. at old city hall? haha.. damn, i dont know shit around the city of toronto
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Can someone clear this up?

I got a ticket, but I got a deal on the ticket. I was supposed to get two, but I only got one for having expired license papers.

Would the cop pull that out during the court appearance, and say "Look your Honour, I already gave this punk a deal......." Would I be screwed? Do they have any proof that they give deals out?

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me personally had two tickets on the same day a while back one for speeding 89 in a 50 and another for failing to provide insurance card. he reduced it on the spot to 20 over but i still decided to fight it even though i knew i wasnt going to win. in court the cop did show up but after talking to him we went up to the procecutor and she said since it was already reduced on the spot she couldnt do anything about that anymore but she was willing to drop the insurance card thing if i paid the speeding ticket. so i just decided to do that.
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yes, the officer writes down everything he does...
even deals that he/she gives out.
so if you go to court, its his words against yours.

edit: from personal experience..... they write every ****ing detail down.
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hmm i dont know about if he threw the ticket out on the spot, but if they reduce the ticket like in my case, they write ND on it which means no deal or something like that.

if you decide to fight it all the way like take it to the judge the chances of winning are pretty slim if your fighting it by yourself without any concrete evidence. like i said though thats if you take it to the judge, usually the prosecutor talks to you before hand and you'll know whether or not you can make a deal.

this is all from my experience though so obviously im not some experienced lawyer but hopefully something within my post you can find something of use.
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Go to the Justice of the Peace and tell him your story. He will most likely take off the points and reduce the fine. Especially if you have a clean record. Good Luck, and sorry to hear about the ticket. Im surprised he nailed you in the 20km over range. Usually they dont pull you over unless you're going well over that.
The JP only has the power to lower the fine, he cannot do anything about the points. Plus if you fight it and the cop doesn't show up... that doesn't matter anymore. He is not required to by law and it is still his word against yours.

The JP dropped my $341.00 fine for doing 126 in an 80 to $85.00

Thank you JP and F#^@ the police, read them their rights... DRAMA.
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Thanks for all the advice so far...

what is the Justice of Peace? is that the same as the judge, or the prosecutor?

And would you guys/girls recommend I call up the courthouse or wahtever it is and try to settle it on the phone, or what do I need to do?
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Hey DONTPULLMEOVER, just wondering, did they still take off points off your ticket? or just drop the points and reduce the fine?

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The JP only has the power to lower the fine, he cannot do anything about the points. Plus if you fight it and the cop doesn't show up... that doesn't matter anymore. He is not required to by law and it is still his word against yours.

The JP dropped my $341.00 fine for doing 126 in an 80 to $85.00

Thank you JP and F#^@ the police, read them their rights... DRAMA.
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Go to justice of the peace, get a resolution meeting. Not sure if it's the same as anyother city. I had a 80 in a 50, peaded guilty to 60 got a fifty some odd dollar fine. But no points. Sorry if this is a repeat I didn't read all the threds
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Just reading up on this....

What is Justice of the Peace?!

I have to go to court this Monday coming up! I was booked 84 in a 60... but the officer told me to take it to court... and to select option 3 on the back of the ticket. He said if he shows, he'll break a deal... if not, then he said don't worry about it. I asked, can't you just let me off this time then? He's like... can't buddy... sorry! I guess he was a lot nicer than the other officer who pulled me over for "supposedly speeding" a while ago... but that's another story. He didn't show... cuz he knew he was wrong!

I don't know why the heck they gave me night court! I have to go to... Queen St. or something? Can't remember... I gotta find the letter they sent me a long time ago! Anyone been there? Any advice for me...???
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