Go Back   Honda Civic Forum > OFF TOPIC > Legal Questions and the Law

Legal Questions and the Law Post your questions about the law, or speeding tickets or anything legal.
Disclaimer: 7thGenCivic.com and it's moderators are not lawyers or police officers (unless otherwise noted) and can in no way be held responsible for any advice or action

Welcome to civicforums.com!
Welcome to civicforums.com.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to start new topics, reply to conversations, privately message other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join civicforums.com today!



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-10-2003   #1 (permalink)
WannaBFast
Prowlin' with a Purpose
 
WannaBFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Minnesota
Age: 27
Posts: 5,250
iTrader: (16)
WannaBFast will become famous soon enough WannaBFast will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to WannaBFast
the gayest ticket EVAR!

clicky
it doesnt say anywhere anything about license plate frames!!!!!

To remove this ad, register today for free or log in if already registered!
__________________
01 ES2, if you dont know what that is.. SEARCH
78 X1/9, if you dont know what that is.. i dont blame you
Honda Trained Technician
Project 5lug: Coming Soon
WannaBFast is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

To avoid seeing this ad in our forum please register at CivicForums.com

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.
Old 09-10-2003   #2 (permalink)
OsOBooSTeD
OsOBaNNeD
 
OsOBooSTeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,964
iTrader: (5)
OsOBooSTeD is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to OsOBooSTeD Send a message via Yahoo to OsOBooSTeD
omg LOL
OsOBooSTeD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #3 (permalink)
wh3nw0rdsesc4pe
Super Member
 
wh3nw0rdsesc4pe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: NC
Age: 26
Posts: 673
iTrader: (0)
wh3nw0rdsesc4pe is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to wh3nw0rdsesc4pe Send a message via AIM to wh3nw0rdsesc4pe
dayum 169 bucks sucks for you!!!
wh3nw0rdsesc4pe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #4 (permalink)
OsOBooSTeD
OsOBaNNeD
 
OsOBooSTeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,964
iTrader: (5)
OsOBooSTeD is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to OsOBooSTeD Send a message via Yahoo to OsOBooSTeD
fight it!
OsOBooSTeD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #5 (permalink)
WannaBFast
Prowlin' with a Purpose
 
WannaBFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Minnesota
Age: 27
Posts: 5,250
iTrader: (16)
WannaBFast will become famous soon enough WannaBFast will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to WannaBFast
its not 169 bucks.. thats the statute, yes im fighting it, the fine is actually $85 but heres a question i pose for you, if it was truely obstructed, how did he get the plate year?
WannaBFast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #6 (permalink)
OsOBooSTeD
OsOBaNNeD
 
OsOBooSTeD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,964
iTrader: (5)
OsOBooSTeD is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to OsOBooSTeD Send a message via Yahoo to OsOBooSTeD
thats a BS ticket ... the cop was tryin to make quota.. **** him up and fight it!
OsOBooSTeD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #7 (permalink)
WannaBFast
Prowlin' with a Purpose
 
WannaBFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Minnesota
Age: 27
Posts: 5,250
iTrader: (16)
WannaBFast will become famous soon enough WannaBFast will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to WannaBFast
my bad.. i smeared the part that says plate year...
WannaBFast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #8 (permalink)
Connie
Abercrombie And Fitch
 
Connie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: West Des Moines, Iowa, US
Age: 26
Posts: 5,875
iTrader: (3)
Connie is a jewel in the rough Connie is a jewel in the rough Connie is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via ICQ to Connie Send a message via AIM to Connie Send a message via Yahoo to Connie
I hate cops that write tickets for a quota, they keep raising the quota in WDM so they are always pulling people over for small stuff, but I am at college in Pella now so its all good.
__________________
2007 BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe . Premium Package . Sports Package . M Seats . Heated Seats . Clutch Stop . Stubby

2008 Yamaha Raven R6 . FE Kit . Flush Mount Signals . GPR v4

2008 Nissan Titan XE . Long Bed . 4x4 . Line-X

2002 NBP Civic Ex Coupe (SOLD!)
Connie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #9 (permalink)
injencivic
Post Master General
 
injencivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: East Tennessee-Knoxville
Posts: 7,254
iTrader: (7)
injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to injencivic Send a message via Yahoo to injencivic
the only reason i can think that the officer wrote the ticket for falls under this subsection of the law...

Subd. 7. Plate fastened and visible. All plates must
be securely fastened so as to prevent them from swinging. The
person driving the motor vehicle shall keep the plate legible
and unobstructed and free from grease, dust, or other blurring
material so that the lettering is plainly visible at all times.
It is unlawful to cover any assigned letters and numbers or the
name of the state of origin of a license plate with any material
whatever, including any clear or colorless material that affects
the plate's visibility or reflectivity.


What that means is he couldnt read the plate due to the license plate frame, but if thats so you should still contest it cause all the car dealerships put license plate frames on your car before you drive off the lot.


Injen
injencivic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #10 (permalink)
WannaBFast
Prowlin' with a Purpose
 
WannaBFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Minnesota
Age: 27
Posts: 5,250
iTrader: (16)
WannaBFast will become famous soon enough WannaBFast will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to WannaBFast
well.. the thing is.. how could he get the plate year if it was obstructed?
WannaBFast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #11 (permalink)
injencivic
Post Master General
 
injencivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: East Tennessee-Knoxville
Posts: 7,254
iTrader: (7)
injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to injencivic Send a message via Yahoo to injencivic
Quote:
Originally posted by WannaBFast
well.. the thing is.. how could he get the plate year if it was obstructed?
through your drivers license. Its a nationwide system called NCIC. has all information on vehicles and drivers of the vehicle. you can get a tag number and the date it expires from the drivers information(if they are the owner) and from the vin number.

Injen
injencivic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #12 (permalink)
WannaBFast
Prowlin' with a Purpose
 
WannaBFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Minnesota
Age: 27
Posts: 5,250
iTrader: (16)
WannaBFast will become famous soon enough WannaBFast will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to WannaBFast
and how would he get my drivers license if my car was parked? it was in front of a van for crying out loud
WannaBFast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #13 (permalink)
injencivic
Post Master General
 
injencivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: East Tennessee-Knoxville
Posts: 7,254
iTrader: (7)
injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light injencivic is a glorious beacon of light
Send a message via AIM to injencivic Send a message via Yahoo to injencivic
he can get any information on your vehicle from your vin number and your tag number.

Injen
injencivic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #14 (permalink)
Narc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 499
iTrader: (1)
Narc is an unknown quantity at this point
I know that the Ontario law states that the entire plate must be visible. This includes both the numbers, validation sticker, and the province.

My advise to you is to request a court date and most importantly, submit a request for disclosure. You will recieve a copy of the officers notes. The beuaty of this request is two fold.
1. by reading his notes you can anticipate what his evidence is and thus, plan your strategy for defence.
2. if the officer fails to disclose in time, you may have the ticket thrown out. (keep a copy of your request).

For a small ticket item like this, the officer may not even bother to go through the hassle, and theres always a very good chance that he wont appear in court.

You have nothing to lose, but everything to gain. Let him do all the work.

(I shudda been a lawyer!)
__________________
FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS DRIVE STOCK.
Narc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #15 (permalink)
DaveyD
Mr. Negative
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
 
DaveyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Duluth, MN
Age: 29
Posts: 9,182
iTrader: (2)
DaveyD is a jewel in the rough DaveyD is a jewel in the rough DaveyD is a jewel in the rough DaveyD is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via AIM to DaveyD
Quote:
Originally posted by Narc

For a small ticket item like this,
Small Ticket. I dont know, but to me 85 bucks isnt small ticket. Small ticket for me is a 6, or 10 dollar meter ticket here in Duluth.
__________________
"A good party has more attractive women than men." --Hugh Hefner
"People who work sitting down get paid more than people who work standing up." --Ogden Nash
Minnesota Sport Compacts Forum
The True Cost Of War In Iraq
DaveyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2003   #16 (permalink)
streetglower
7thGen Junkie
 
streetglower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Miami (Pembroke Pines), Florida
Age: 27
Posts: 17,209
iTrader: (13)
streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all
Send a message via AIM to streetglower
tickets arent cheap anymore, in texas they added a $30 traffic fee added to all fines. that cop had to be makinh his quota or he had nothing better to do than harrass people. I am not going to flame the officer, but what he did sounds like complete BS.
streetglower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2003   #17 (permalink)
Narc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 499
iTrader: (1)
Narc is an unknown quantity at this point
Please bare in mind that when I say "small ticket" i mean a ticket that is not even a moving violation. This is not a scenario of drunk or careless driving, a motor vehicle collision, pedestrian struck, or a breach of any statute that places other drivers on the roadway in danger (ie running a red light).

I never meant to minimise the impact the fine has on the guy, I was simply trying to help.
__________________
FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS DRIVE STOCK.
Narc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2003   #18 (permalink)
4bangin
Ultimate Member
 
4bangin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US
Age: 25
Posts: 2,246
iTrader: (1)
4bangin is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to 4bangin
nothing u can do. it is not legal to have a cover over your license plate. sorry, but i dont think you will win if you fight it. my freidn got pulled over after being at the carlisle car show for less than 10 min. everyone was speeding and doing burnouts and the cop pulled him over because he had a cover on his license plate. it was a tinted blue, once you get about 20 feet behind him, you cant see the blue letters on the pa license plate with that cover on it.
4bangin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2003   #19 (permalink)
WannaBFast
Prowlin' with a Purpose
 
WannaBFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Minnesota
Age: 27
Posts: 5,250
iTrader: (16)
WannaBFast will become famous soon enough WannaBFast will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to WannaBFast
umm it wasnt covered up.. it was a license plate frame simlar to the 7thgencivic plate frame... not a coverall
WannaBFast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2003   #20 (permalink)
DaveyD
Mr. Negative
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
 
DaveyD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Duluth, MN
Age: 29
Posts: 9,182
iTrader: (2)
DaveyD is a jewel in the rough DaveyD is a jewel in the rough DaveyD is a jewel in the rough DaveyD is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via AIM to DaveyD
Take a pic of your car. I rememeber seeing it.
__________________
"A good party has more attractive women than men." --Hugh Hefner
"People who work sitting down get paid more than people who work standing up." --Ogden Nash
Minnesota Sport Compacts Forum
The True Cost Of War In Iraq
DaveyD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2003   #21 (permalink)
4bangin
Ultimate Member
 
4bangin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US
Age: 25
Posts: 2,246
iTrader: (1)
4bangin is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to 4bangin
oh then never minded. my post is pointless. haha.
4bangin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2003   #22 (permalink)
BLCKOUT
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Age: 26
Posts: 318
iTrader: (0)
BLCKOUT is an unknown quantity at this point
Injen is right, when an officer runs your plate, the dispatcher will call back the information contained, it tells where your loan is out of, who registered to, VIN number, Expire date, purchase date of tag
allll that good stuff.

NCIC is cool :-)
BLCKOUT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2003   #23 (permalink)
ptechricer
Senior Member
 
ptechricer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: garland, Texas, US
Age: 27
Posts: 445
iTrader: (0)
ptechricer is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to ptechricer
They just passed a law here in dallas that if any liccesen plate frames block the number or the state it is illeagle. GAY
__________________
I talk alot of smack........
ptechricer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2003   #24 (permalink)
streetglower
7thGen Junkie
 
streetglower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Miami (Pembroke Pines), Florida
Age: 27
Posts: 17,209
iTrader: (13)
streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all streetglower is a name known to all
Send a message via AIM to streetglower
That law is in all of texas, the fort bend sherriffs dept here in sugarland where pulling everyone over last night in my area giving them warnings on it, that is the stupidest law ever.
streetglower is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


  
User Login
Our Partners
used new



Top 10 Threads
HID's Illegal? (Just got a ticket)
$$$ for tint ticket in NY state
***Please Read- NEON/UNDERBODY NEON LIGHT QUESTIONS***--UPDATED WITH CALIFORNIA LAW--
State Window Tint Rules & Laws
Exhaust modification in California Law, my viewpoint, sources included.
****California Laws for Import mods and street racing***
Traffic Stops: The Basics 101
USA and CANADA tint law links
California state referee ticket
FYI: Texas Street Racing Law

Site Supporters


aluminum radiator

Honda car spoilers


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:34 PM.

   
Advertising - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Jobs
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0
All Content Copyright © 2007 CivicForums.com