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Old 09-05-2004   #1 (permalink)
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need a site banner and logo..

i cant really offer money. i can offer what i have for points to the nicest job

I'm opening a local shop here for mainly compact's.. imports domestics im hoping to specialize in honda's

The name is going to be "Paradox Blue".
the theme of the site is going to be blue

i need a banner for accrosse the top. probably 600x100 or what ever a normal page top banner is going to be
something simple but flashy (a paradox heh)
that is clean and looks techy. carbon fibre look maybe? i dunno be creative

any help would be GREAT
maybe feature a few cars.. use your own if you want.
i dont even know what i want. but you guys are god at what you do. anything wold be better them my paint shop attemps

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i cant really offer money.



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i love how everyone on this site thinks people will just photoshop their ride or do them banner etc.

if you want my services, and this isnt pride it's my 12 years of experience, you will pay.

a simple photo'chop' as said here is work worth $200+.

Banner ads, gif anim, $250-500.

I charge $500+ for logo design.

Im not just some punk as who rippped off PS, I am a professional.

hear me roar or go find someone else. adn if you are a punk, go punk yurself.
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i love how everyone on this site thinks people will just photoshop their ride or do them banner etc.
I agree....to a point. If someone asks for a site banner or logo that will be used to make money...then yes, that art work SHOULD be paid for....it's common sense, and only fair.

But if someone asks for a signature (for the forums) or to see what their car looks like with a CF hood, or a different color, or to see what some new rims will look like....then it's FINE....and we're MORE than happy to do it. If you don't want to....cool...nobody asked you.

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if you want my services, and this isnt pride it's my 12 years of experience, you will pay.

a simple photo'chop' as said here is work worth $200+.

Banner ads, gif anim, $250-500.

I charge $500+ for logo design.

Im not just some punk as who rippped off PS, I am a professional.

hear me roar or go find someone else. adn if you are a punk, go punk yurself.

Easy bro...

Them's some pretty harsh words thurr.

How can you place a value on something that people are MORE than willing to do for FREE? It doesn't make sense. (ref. "a simple photo'chop' as said here"...I assume to mean rim chops, body chops, etc.)

You're not the ONLY pro on this forum you know? Ever heard of the other "Pro's" rippin' on us "punks" ? Nope.....why? Because they're cool with it. If their "PRO" services are requested...then OF COURSE they're going to get paid for it. This site wasn't created for the "Pro's" to solicit their services. It was created for the common person to chop, learn, and have fun....it just so happens that sometimes people ask here for chops to be done, and to be paid for.

Us "punks" work just as hard as you do (and prolly spend MORE time on these chops than you do), to the best of our abilities, and USUALLY we don't get paid for it....why? 'Cause we do it for FUN (and maybe some lil perks that people OFFER)....and yes, we're not as good as you "Pro's". But neither is someone, say asking for a signature, expecting "PRO" quality work.

This is also the reason that I NEVER post chops for money. I tried that once or twice, got shot down, realized that these things WERE better left to the "pro's" and I stick to the "fun chops"....as do many of us "punks".

I dunno much about you or why you posted that (nor can I sense ANY sarcasm in your post), but if you'd like to include PICHY as a "punk as who ripped off PS" .... then I think your view of "punk" is SLIGHTLY skewed (heh..note the PS reference, lol).

True, I didn't PURCHASE PS from a store......but neither did I go to school for this, and (sad but true, lol) I've NEVER MADE MONEY FOR MY WORK. I'm self taught through books, tutorials, and "trial-n-error". I'm proud of that, and I think the other "punks" are as well. No...I'm prolly not NEARLY as good as you, and nor will I EVER be.....

To the best of my knowledge....PICHY is the only (by your own def.) "Punk" that makes money for his work. (And in my opinion, and obviously others too....HE DESERVES IT...HE'S GOOD!)

Now I ask you....is his work not as good as yours? Does the fact that you do it for a living, and went to school for it make you a better person (as implied by your post) ?

I think not ....and honestly, I think your post was TOTALLY out of line. If you want to get paid for it, ask....if he's not willing to pay...then fine...DON'T DO IT. But there was NO need to chastise the rest of us because we didn't buy PS, we're not schooled, and we don't have 12 years of exp.

Just my $0.02, and it'll prolly get deleted anyway. But I had to speak up.

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Sorry, I just get frustrated by the people who hit people up with jobs who want it for free when I struggle to make a living at it. I do freebies quite often actually because I like to do design even if it doesnt pay.

You are right Fatty, everyone needs something sometimes and sometimes its something they have to ask others for. (I had a frustrating night and a few computer malfunctions that put me in a crappy mood and it got taken out in a poast here.)

I could blame my harsh words on lots of things but you are right, I should have taken a step back first before ripping. I apologize to paradox who was just looking for help getting his graphics done right.

Such is the life of a graphic designer who finds himself out of his field and broke. :/
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my thing is if a person is gon make money why cant i.....sigs and other shit i do 4 free no prob about that... i created the sig factory to prove it....but if the person needs a banner to make money i should have the right to ask for cash...no? i dont ask for much either. put it this way J gets mad when i tell him my price, he says is too low...lol...just my opinion
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my thing is if a person is gon make money why cant i.....sigs and other shit i do 4 free no prob about that... i created the sig factory to prove it....but if the person needs a banner to make money i should have the right to ask for cash...no? i dont ask for much either. put it this way J gets mad when i tell him my price, he says is too low...lol...just my opinion

All I gotta say is "TrueHonda.com" ...dude.....you DID NOT charge enough, IMO.

But Alien: I understand. It's all good.

And I agree with both of you. If it's something that will be used for advertising to MAKE money...then MONEY should be paid for it. Period.

Either way, choppin' is fun, and I think we all have that in common.



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its .net but that works great

and no i dont plan to make money off this site. its gonna be pretty much a group site for group buyings in my local area. so i dont have 500 dollars to pay out for a logo/banner or else iw ould have. sorry.

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its .net but that works great

and no i dont plan to make money off this site. its gonna be pretty much a group site for group buyings in my local area. so i dont have 500 dollars to pay out for a logo/banner or else iw ould have. sorry.

thank you pichy

have u been quoted that b4....i wish someone would pay that to me.....damn......i can tell u its very cheap compared to $500....
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thakn you. yes i must admit. very elegent and yet works perfect. thank you very much if i am ever offering something you are interested in. remind me. if the chanc ecomes up ic an get you a deal. long shot. but may happen someday
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and it was alien meat sack who quoted 500 for a banner and logo.. just scroll up :|

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