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Old 04-19-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Evangelion: Post your opinions

Post what you think.

I'm not posting a resume of any sort. I watch alot of anime. I think too much because there's hardly any series that I haven't watched and dissected. I of course spent some time with Evangelion in often times heated debates over the religious symbolism. I think the creators did not have any anti-christian themes in mind. When I was in Tokyo, I only saw one church and it happened to be where Korean-Japanese congregated. Christianity is a foreign concept to the Japanese. What better way to make a cool series than to throw in some religious analogies and call the enemy Angels?
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I've seen the Series, I still have seen death and rebirth or end of evangelion. I really liked the series, I didn't feel as if it was anti Christian either. Though I never could make sense of the ending which kinda bothered me because I invested 11 hours watching the series. But for the most part I really enjoyed evangelion. I think they called them angels because they were creatures that came from the sky. ANYWAY, just my thoughts, you ever wanna talk anime IM me, my name is Renamazazo

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well, technically... i feel that the angels weren't evil, they were trying to rescue their "leader", Adam. i feel that maybe why they constantly attacked tokyo 3, because Adam was held there. Nerv made them seem evil, when all they wanted was save Adam?

I don't think the show is anti-christian at all, but that's just me. I have yet to see End of Eva (i am most likely going to skip rebirth/death, i heard all it is was just retell 1-24 and them footage from end of eva)

Still many questions about the anime, like.. half of the stuff they talk about, they never explain what it is. Such as the staff of whatever that kept Lilith from regenerating (through the whole anime, i thought lilith was adam). they never explained LCL was lilith's blood, and that the staff was there to prevent him/her from regenerating. they didn't explain the evas really well, and they didn't explain the geo-front either, are there more geo-fronts out there? I still have not yet figured out what Gendo is trying to do. I never realized Yui's essence was in Eva 01.. etc... yeah.. the thing doesn't explain much of anything...
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well, technically... i feel that the angels weren't evil, they were trying to rescue their "leader", Adam. i feel that maybe why they constantly attacked tokyo 3, because Adam was held there. Nerv made them seem evil, when all they wanted was save Adam?

I don't think the show is anti-christian at all, but that's just me. I have yet to see End of Eva (i am most likely going to skip rebirth/death, i heard all it is was just retell 1-24 and them footage from end of eva)

Still many questions about the anime, like.. half of the stuff they talk about, they never explain what it is. Such as the staff of whatever that kept Lilith from regenerating (through the whole anime, i thought lilith was adam). they never explained LCL was lilith's blood, and that the staff was there to prevent him/her from regenerating. they didn't explain the evas really well, and they didn't explain the geo-front either, are there more geo-fronts out there? I still have not yet figured out what Gendo is trying to do. I never realized Yui's essence was in Eva 01.. etc... yeah.. the thing doesn't explain much of anything...
Yeah the show leaves much of the interpretation to the viewer.
I recommend watching Death (1-24 mix). It skips Shinji's whole mind trip about being a human being and his relationship with women/father/etc. It's like a good mixtape, and the DJ (producers) artfully crafts a more plot oriented story rather than focus on the existentialist angle that they've led us in the later episodes. If you've seen the Macross Plus OAVs and then saw the movie, then it's exactly like that. There's extra footage to help fill in certain blanks in the story and it's been remixed out of order into a more chronologically sound production.

I was just messing around with a concept of the Angels and Adam, so you gotta tell me what you think. God created Adam as the first man. The angels of God were created and loved by him previously to Adams birth. Humans as the first "Adam" is attempting to replace God by creating their own Adam, therefore negating their role as an inferior being. So the angels were sent to put people back in their place.

I'm sure you've heard about how Shinji could be an analogy of Jesus Christ. He was destined to fulfil a role set forth by his father, whom is portrayed as a somewhat omnipotent figure in the beginning of the series. Then it focuses on how lonely he is as the world's true "savior" yet at the times of distress, his father had forsaken him.

As far as characters go, I think the series did an excellent job giving flaws to all the characters, whom have tried to keep secret. The flaws of Ritsuko giving herself to Gendo was barely implied throughout the story until the end and helps explain a somewhat strained relationship in that chain of command. Misato's shortcomings clearly explain her outwardly extrovertedness to distract people from her depressing life. And Shinji is probably the realest character in the show. He was not prepared to accept the responsibility as the worlds savior and he portrays how people have the need to feel loved/needed/wanted. He is reluctant of course because he feels abandoned and worthless and those feelings stymie his willingness to save the world. In a sense, it's selfish, but it's real because it's hard to believe a person will step up to save the people he feels has spit on him.
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i haven't thought that deep yet, i finished the series like.. 2 days ago
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You know what? the ending movie is just too weird. During the series, they ran out of funding once, the team had to re-use the same animation again and again from different previous series. Check it out
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just saw the ned of evangelion, i gotta say.. that ending is almost as screw up at the tv episode 25/26 i still don't get it. and what's up with shinji wanting to choke asuka to death? phhht...
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Just think of how guys can "love" a woman so much that he kills her... I thought it ran along that same line.
Shinji is so full of self loathing that he probably didn't love anybody because he never loved himself to begin with.
Another view would be that he was so consumed with hate and bloodlust that he expressed it upon the one he lusted after.
I saw it 2 years ago on a HK bootleg, so I don't exactly remember all the details.
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i saw a website that, his wish was at last a empty dead world with asuka.. that was.. yeah... all those people he spent all those time, he rather keep them dead.. blah... he could've brought his mom back too!
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It's just too deep. Think like Japanese now. way of Zen
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