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I used GReddy's Full Auto Timer for this. I don't know if other timers offer all of the same features as the F.A.T, but this DIY explains how to hook them up. GReddy doesn't make an ignition harness for our cars so it requires splicing.
Tools:
Philips head screwdriver
Splice connectors
Large Plyers
Electrical Tape (optional)
Handsaw (optional)
1. The first thing you have to do is get the shroud off from around the steering column. This is done by removing the three philips head screws in the bottom of it. Then you have to gently pry the bottom part from the top part.
2. Once that is off, you will be able to see the ignition harness. It's 5 large wires in a brown pin connector. This can be unclipped and removed (a lot easier to work with) The wires are as such:
12V white
STARTER black/white
IGNITION black/yellow
ACCESSORY black/red
SECOND ACCESSORY white/red
3. The GReddy Harness has 3 main wires: Red:12V, Green:ON, Blue: ACCESSORY
You have to actually cut off the end of the harness connector because they don't make a harness for our cars. I removed the spades from the connector and found out you can't just sqeeze them into the ignition connector, so I did have to cut them.
4. The wires are installed like the following:
GReddy RED WIRE gets spliced into the ingnition WHITE WIRE (12V)
GReddy GREEN WIRE gets spliced into the ingition BLACK/YELLOW WIRE (ON)
GReddy BLUE WIRE gets spliced into the ingition BLACK/RED WIRE (ACCESORY)
In all honesty, the blue wire doesn't seem to do anything. With or without it, it still works the same on our cars. I say just install it anyway. Even though the splice connectors snap shut, I still wrapped them with electrical tape anyway.
EDIT: MadWheel says the blue wire can be used to run a 12V accessory if you have something.
5. The next thing to do is ground the connection. It comes with a wire attached. Just find a piece of the chassis to bolt it onto. I used a bolt on the left side of the steering column.
6. At this point it should work. Start the car. It should beep and light up with a red screen and then a blue screen. If you setup the timer... it should keep the car running when you turn off the ignition, and start it's countdown.
7. Next comes hooking up the parking break feature (brown wire) and the vehicle speed sensor ooption (purple wire). To do this, you will probably need the DIYs on:
Removing the center console and removing the headunit. After you remove these... it should look like this: Beautiful isn't it. Those red arrows point to where the wires can run through. Left arrow points to where the whole harness can come through. Bottom arrow for the parking break wire and right arrow for the speed sensor wire.
8. Run the brown wire to the parking break. You will see a bolt that drops onto a plate when you release the parking break. (Just remember to have your car in gear or in park when messing around with this) That plate is a 12V plate. If you remove the plastic connector from it, you will see that there is a hole in the metal. It stripped the wire and wound it around the hole. I then put the plastic connector back on over it. The Parking Break Feature is a safety feature. Supposes you leave your car and it it's is still idling in countown. If someone somehow got into your car, if they release the parking break to move the car, the car will shut off. Pretty good IMO.
9. The purple wire is for the Vehicle Speed Sensor. It needs to be tapped into the ECU which is behind the glovebox. I have to leave this out, because I haven't done it yet. It let's the Timer give a readout of your speed in km/h. It's a Japanese product if you are wondering why. Here's a pic of the wire though coming through the glove box. The ECU is in the background.
10. Now it is time to do the mounting. I decided to put it in the 1/2 DIN pocket below my haedunit. Since I already had my stereo out anyway, I took the plastic off around it. I sawed a small square out in the back. It's big enough to fit the harness connector through. That way, if I wanted to take the electronics out of my car, I wouldn't have to remove the control console to uninstall it.
11. After all is said and done, put your car back together, and plug in the harness connector to the connector coming out of the back of the timer. Have fun!
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Last edited by Boosted2k2; 05-13-2003 at 09:40 PM.
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km/h??? No mph??? If I buy a turbo timer, then I'll make sure it has a mph readout. Then again, I have the speedometer. LOL Maybe it does other things with that though? Good DIY. I'll probably use it when I get mine installed. Don't know which one to buy yet, but I'll get there...
I dunno, maybe it's just mine. I think it was imported though... still has the pricetag in Yen. Same with my type s bov. It probably does use the speed reading to suggest a countdown. I know it uses the voltage to do it. When I give it gas, the seconds go up. When I floor it, they go up faster. When I take my foot off or sit at idle, they start to go down. So, I would assume the speed sensor might help do the same. I figured km/h because it is a Japanese product and not too many countries use mph. I don't know though.
of course! You write this the day after i install my Apex'i turbo timer. Anyways, i found a simpler way (if you have the factory alarm. On the ignition connector, just splice into the alarm wires for the accessory and 12v power. It worked great on mine.
Originally posted by Catalyst of course! You write this the day after i install my Apex'i turbo timer. Anyways, i found a simpler way (if you have the factory alarm. On the ignition connector, just splice into the alarm wires for the accessory and 12v power. It worked great on mine.
I don't have the factory alarm. But that sounds pretty much the same I think, only it sounds like you spliced into the harness and I spliced directly into the ignition wires. The hardest part to all of this is mounting it. Splicing is semi-easy on the ignition wires because there isn't a lot of space to work. But the hardest part is just removing the center console ( if you have the E-brake option) and A/C controls, which, for anybody who has done that, knows it isn't even hard at all.
the accessory feature on the greddy harness (blue) is desinged for products such as a tachometer, which only needs power when the engine is running. You can leave it free then send it to any extra units you add later, even an safc or vafc...it could go on forever
Originally posted by MadWheel the accessory feature on the greddy harness (blue) is desinged for products such as a tachometer, which only needs power when the engine is running. You can leave it free then send it to any extra units you add later, even an safc or vafc...it could go on forever
Really? I guess I can do the 12V to my gauges through that then
bringing this thread back to life-
boosted, can you find a way to get the pics back up? i'm one of those people who work better with visuals, hehe.
i just got my HKS type-1 turbo timer today...to anyone who has one, is this DIY the same for the HKS? or are some things different for that? also, can i install it even if i dont have the turbo in yet?