Crower turbo cams Question!! and d16y8 Intake manifold Question!!

[starpostrera]

Im planning on replacing my head gasket soon on my d17a2. however, i want to replace my intake manifold since i have to take out the head. Now I havent done anything to my internals and i want to get the turbo crower cams since i will be working with the head. Now if i install the turbo cam and the y8 mani do i have to tune the car again?? and do i need to get a adjustable cam gears? thank you

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[ronaldo9]

Yes you'll need to tune and no you won't need a cam gear unless you're going to use kpro (but thats another convo). Make sure you also purchase the valve springs and retainers.

[starpostrera]

Do I really need to get the valve springs and retainers even tho it doesnt say i need to. i know that for stage 3 & 4 cams you need to replace the valve springs and reta.

if i just do the head gasket which i dont which one is the best i have been looking and i have seen some but no much info on those.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Allis-Chalmers-W...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/COMET...QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/rafr...386288k1021112

[starpostrera]

Sorry I just notice that I do need the Valve Sp & Reta.. I just call honda and they have a heat gasket for $39.99 is that a good one? thanks..

[bomerman19]

oem head gasket is perfect one of the best out there you need the valve springs and retainers due to the size of the lobes and how much it is squeezed or pushed down also the cam continues to make power above the stock redline which is another reason to change out the springs they can handle higher rpms easyier

[bomerman19]

also the d16 y8 mani is not a direct bolt on to the d17 motor there is a lot of modification that needs to be done mainly the mounting plate and the throttle body

[seoul4korea]

Fyi before turboing a Non oem turbo car you should look into doing alot of other things before considering doing this. Head gasket, Studs, fuel pressure reg., your entire fuel system, ECU tuning or piggy/stand alone, gauges to monitor you engine and what it's doing. Jumping into turbo charging isn't about that leap of faith, it requires alot of planning and time. although I'm more then likely going to get alot of crap for posting this, turbocharging is about getting SAFE power. If you love your care then take the time to do it right and research what your getting into. More on that if you getting a "turbo cam" tuning will be required.

[bomerman19]

the stage 2 turbo cam does not require that much tuning unless you really want to pull some power out of it you can run it on a stock map but running a turbo is a different story k-pro is recommended.

[starpostrera]

well I Guess i didnt provide a lot of info but I turbocharge the car about two years ago. Im running the t3/t4, tial BOV, Aem Piggy, and 550cc rc injectors, gauges and fuel regulator even tho you cant really set a fuel pressure on 7th gen. however, my questions is, can i just upgrade the cams w/out tuning the car? Last time i tune my car was last year the thing about tuning my car is that my tuner guy is back in orlando fl and im in South Carolina so thats why everytime i have to tune the car i think about the trip. However, i think im just going to do the head gasket this weekend since i need like $1000 to get the cams and valve sp and tuning.. I call Honda and they have a HG for like $39 and advance has a fel-pro for $37. so i dont know what to get...

thanks guys for the reply..

[baron340]

seriously.. 2 bucks.. get the oem honda gasket. yes you will need more tuning. no you can't straight bolt on a y8 intake mani.

[seoul4korea]

mmmmm I agree with the tuning part, your going to have to get it. It's going to Change your VE in everyway and you EMS is not really going to know with the change in air delivery. Also one last question.... Whats so special about the OEM head gasket? Why wouldn't you want to get an HKS gasket? Or is it some thing you guys do as a safety issue?? Blow head gasket rather then motor?

[bomerman19]

OEM gasket is the best gasket on the market for honda's they make one damm good head gasket!!! their is no point to waste extra money on some supposed amazing great after market head gasket. when the honda one will out last it.

honestly the only reason you would go with an aftermarket gasket like say cometic(i'm sure i spelled that wrong) is if you are bored out beyond what the oem gasket can handle like say 76 mm

btw you can adjust the fuel pressure you need to do a return set up then most people set it up to run 1lbs of extra pressure for every psi

[seoul4korea]

Originally Posted by bomerman19

OEM gasket is the best gasket on the market for honda's they make one damm good head gasket!!! their is no point to waste extra money on some supposed amazing great after market head gasket. when the honda one will out last it.

honestly the only reason you would go with an aftermarket gasket like say cometic(i'm sure i spelled that wrong) is if you are bored out beyond what the oem gasket can handle like say 76 mm

btw you can adjust the fuel pressure you need to do a return set up then most people set it up to run 1lbs of extra pressure for every psi

Thanks for filling me in. I know turbos more then I know Honda motors. I like 7th gen section because my wife has one so i'd kind of a place for me to go to learn more about her civic. Anything else about this car that I should know? I love to learn so fill me in!

[bomerman19]

there are lots of little quirks about this car
like it will fight every engine management except a standalone ie. K-pro
7 psi or higher boost you need ARP head studs or you will blow the gasket
valve springs, retainers, rod bolts, flywheel, and clutch are about the only things that transfer over from the d15 and d16.
honda fit lsd fits the trans, and the trans resembles a k series more than it does a d-series just spin the other direction

there is lots of things if you have questions then search and if you can not still find answers then ask

oh and check the date of the thread before posting if you bring up a 6 year old thread your going to get flamed

[starpostrera]

7 psi or higher boost you need ARP head studs or you will blow the gasket

valve springs, retainers, rod bolts, flywheel, and clutch are about the only things that transfer over from the d15 and d16.

I Have a D16a6 engine at my garage with tranny I bought the clutch I installed but i only use it for two months. can i swap it to my d17 tranny??

whats ARP?

thanks a lot guys... i will post my car soon...