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Re: Crower turbo cams Question!! and d16y8 Intake manifold Question!!
I see were are having fun with RED AND LARGE LETTERS LOL
oh and sometimes if you are not tuned good enough the head gaskets have been known to blow at 6 psi basicly if youa re turbo you should be running them they are only like $95 from summit
Re: Crower turbo cams Question!! and d16y8 Intake manifold Question!!
No F/iC is not fine. It has problems. From the accounts I've heard, my success with it is some of the best of anyone and it sucks. Trying to beat it into submission is very difficult. Emanage isn't even worth mentioning.. it's a box o' junk. You can't push anywhere near 15 psi with F/iC. The stock MAP sensor limits you to 11 psi if you are lucky and 9 in most cases. Beyond that the stock ECU makes the car untunable because the MAP sensor flips out. I don't push K-pro, I run AEM EMS, but a standalone engine management system is required IMHO. You have all these go fast parts and spend thousands on a turbo and manifold, IC, bov etc. etc. and then cheap out on the management. That's like taking the body of lance armstrong and controlling it with the brain of a retard.
Re: Crower turbo cams Question!! and d16y8 Intake manifold Question!!
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Originally Posted by baron340
no f/ic is not fine. It has problems. From the accounts i've heard, my success with it is some of the best of anyone and it sucks. Trying to beat it into submission is very difficult. Emanage isn't even worth mentioning.. It's a box o' junk. You can't push anywhere near 15 psi with f/ic. The stock map sensor limits you to 11 psi if you are lucky and 9 in most cases. Beyond that the stock ecu makes the car untunable because the map sensor flips out. I don't push k-pro, i run aem ems, but a standalone engine management system is required imho. You have all these go fast parts and spend thousands on a turbo and manifold, ic, bov etc. Etc. And then cheap out on the management. that's like taking the body of lance armstrong and controlling it with the brain of a retard.
Re: Crower turbo cams Question!! and d16y8 Intake manifold Question!!
baron is absolutely right if you really want your car to drive straight get k-pro it is trully the only way. It will fight you every step of the way with piggy backs until it just blows up. people say that k-pro is expensive really once you get it and actually use it on your car you will see that the price is justified. k-pro is not a system that you need to be running if you are running a higher levels of boost it is a system that you need to be running if you are running boost period no matter what the levels are.
yeah the cost of looks painfull at first but ask anyone that is using it on a d17 and they will tell get it. the reason I say that it is not expensive is mostly due to the fact if you get it you will save so much money on the fact that you will not break any were near as many parts and your car will be so much more reliable that it will cost tons less on routine maintenance.
big problem with the d17 crowd is they do not want to spend the money on it, and I swear it is like pulling teeth to get most people running boost to get one but when they do it is like some one totaly flipped the world upside down in a good way it is just that good.
now the AEM EMS fulll standalone is good to since it is a standalone but k-pro is extremely user friendly which is one reason it is preferred plus it uses a honda ecu
Re: Crower turbo cams Question!! and d16y8 Intake manifold Question!!
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Originally Posted by 2k1civic01
I'm not bashing kpro. I run it on my rsx and em2. I'm just saying for low boost apps and low budget builds you can run a piggyback with a GOOD tune.
If you got the money and don't want headaches that come with the piggybacks. Then get a standalone.
Like I said, every forced induction thread always pops up kpro this kpro that.
there is a reason for that it is just that much better even for low boost setups.
I have worked on everything from tiny little turbo builds pushing maybe 5 psi to the record holding 489hp andyman97 car I have seen it all with boost and I have done it all with N/A I don't even have my turbo on my car yet but I have ran k-pro longer then most people and have more experience with it then most and have seen what all the piggy backs do it's not worth the waste of time or money to go out buy a piggy back hwen if you eat rammen a couple months longer you can have k-pro and you won't be dissapointed that you did
Re: Crower turbo cams Question!! and d16y8 Intake manifold Question!!
I Really want to get Kpro. im just trying to save up money for an upgrade. Right now i have the basic and i can complaint 224hpw. my next step is Turbo pistons, Rods, Turbo cams and springs, Slip differential and of course Kpro. for all that i need a good amount of money... But yeap im totally agree with kpro my friend drive a 01 civic with intake and mufler and his car runs really good not as good as a turbo but runs really good..... hes got kpro.. top speed on his d17 138mph.
