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you said you cant afford a k20 at the moment right? so therefor you will get one eventually and have to get a new trans anyway....i say this is a waste of money and wait till you are older and have more money
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no but i am searching on that right now. i don't think we need one, but i'm gonna do it just in case to save myself from having to redo everything in case it doesn't work.
you said you cant afford a k20 at the moment right? so therefor you will get one eventually and have to get a new trans anyway....i say this is a waste of money and wait till you are older and have more money
well i dont know if i even want to do a k20
i just wanna do stick at the moment
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Originally Posted by Civicman1988
no but i am searching on that right now. i don't think we need one, but i'm gonna do it just in case to save myself from having to redo everything in case it doesn't work.
when you find out let me know.. im gonna try to IM the guy who did this be4 and see what he says.. hes not online now though
Last edited by jamesandrew58; 09-04-2006 at 05:02 PM.
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i also drive an auto but the cost of swapping just the tranny isnt worth it. d17s, auto or stick, is still slow unless its turbo'd. save ur money for a k20a3 if ur on a budget. its one of the cheapest k20s but u still get decent gains.
maybe he doesnt want to go fast, just have fun driving a stick. he said he just wants to have more fun autocrossing anyway. i dont see why everyone says get a k20, cuz anything else sucks.
maybe he doesnt want to go fast, just have fun driving a stick. he said he just wants to have more fun autocrossing anyway. i dont see why everyone says get a k20, cuz anything else sucks.
agree no one has made the effort to build anything for are cars or even build them up. i plan on building a performance motor for mine. i just get sick of hearing k20 ya there fast. maybe its because i dont have one
Last edited by Civicman1988; 09-04-2006 at 06:31 PM.
You dont really need a manual ecu in order for it to work, I have a buddy that swapped his auto to manual and is still running his auto ecu. Its been a year now and no problems. As far as the cluster, you can still use your auto cluster, only difference is the P R N D D3 2 will be there thats it. and no you do not need a new dash harness or whatever.
And yes, people have tried to build the D17, the problem is... the amount you have to spend in order to see any gain is not worth it. Thats why no one bothers.
You dont really need a manual ecu in order for it to work, I have a buddy that swapped his auto to manual and is still running his auto ecu. Its been a year now and no problems. As far as the cluster, you can still use your auto cluster, only difference is the P R N D D3 2 will be there thats it. and no you do not need a new dash harness or whatever.
And yes, people have tried to build the D17, the problem is... the amount you have to spend in order to see any gain is not worth it. Thats why no one bothers.
hmm ok.. but if i can get ahold of a MT ecu i will get one
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Originally Posted by Civicman1988
thats how i look at it if i have a lot of speed i might do something stubbed
+1
ya if u auto-x like in a parking lot without much stright what u gonna do with all that power?
also.. does the engine need to be removed to do this swap or can it be done w/o removing the engine? or is it too hard to do it w/o removing the trans?
can the a/c compressor be pushed back w/o removing anylines so i can reconnect it w/o recharging if i do need to remove the engine?
i just realized, if we swap out ECU's our immobilizer will be fuked!
some1 said u can run a auto ecu.. i wil probabaly do that to reduce the issues
Originally Posted by AzNmiKex215
whats this i hear about swapping a auto to a manual, that the "D" will keep blinking on the guages?
I DIDNT REALY PAY ATTENTION TO THE D BLINKING BUT FOR US AUTO'S YOU HAVE TO ADRESS A WIRING ISSUE FOR THIS. I HAVE AND IT WORKED. YOULL FIND IF YOU DONT, YOUR KEY WILL BE STUCK IN THE IGNITION BECAUSE THE CAR THINKS YOUR IN R,N,OR D. ITS A SIMPLE FIX.
whats the fix?
Last edited by jamesandrew58; 09-04-2006 at 07:32 PM.
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JDMInspire hmm ok.. but if i can get ahold of a MT ecu i will get one
+1
ya if u auto-x like in a parking lot without much stright what u gonna do with all that power?
also.. does the engine need to be removed to do this swap or can it be done w/o removing the engine? or is it too hard to do it w/o removing the trans?
can the a/c compressor be pushed back w/o removing anylines so i can reconnect it w/o recharging if i do need to remove the engine?
i just realized, if we swap out ECU's our immobilizer will be fuked!
some1 said u can run a auto ecu.. i wil probabaly do that to reduce the issues
i wouldn't remove the engine. just take the wheel well off and try to work w/o taking it out. i'm probably gonna be doing my swap the same week you are. i'm just saving up and trying to get parts. thanks for the rep.
There shouldn't be an actual "dash harness" specifically for the transmission type. The ecu wires that control the multiplex will relay the same information but the display will be different based on the cluster you have.
The engine harness may be a different story. I would think that you would probably need a manual's engine harness due to the variable transmission and the different controls on the ecu...but then again, you may be able to just leave that clip unplugged. The ecu is a must.
What I would do if I were doing this swap is search www.car-part.com and find a salvage yard that has basically an entire manual civic that has all required trans. parts in tact and swing a deal with them for all the parts you will need. See if you can get away with like 300-350 or something for everything and save yourself money and time.... These parts are so readily available, believe that they don't move fast and you shouldn't have a problem finding a yard that will hook you up.
in the middle of the swap now you dont need the dash wiring or engine wiring...
you dont need to cut a hole in the floor either every civic was made for manual and has all the cutouts/hole for the pedals and wut not already in the car everything bolts on..
