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Old 09-28-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Checking interest: E-manage Ultimate PnP & some other goodies

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All that seems great i would be interested if the prices aren't outrageous
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All that seems great i would be interested if the prices aren't outrageous
What do you mean?

R&D and pioneering custom parts NEVER comes cheap. Sorry we can not produce these parts cheaper. Volumes of demand create a cheaper unit.
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I've talked to you about the ultimate p n p harness. Here's the thing. For people wanting over 250 whp, they're going to need larger injectors. An intake manifold with a rail that will accommodate those injectors would be what's needed as well as an emanage ultimate to control them. I think you're on the right track for people who want serious power.

I really would like to test a p n p harness with my ultimate if you guys could come up with a prototype, I know where all of the wires go/etc as well as jumper settings, I just haven't been able to get the car going because of my hack wiring job and I don't want to try to rewire it again, I'd rather just have something neat and clean like your harness.
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I've talked to you about the ultimate p n p harness. Here's the thing. For people wanting over 250 whp, they're going to need larger injectors. An intake manifold with a rail that will accommodate those injectors would be what's needed as well as an emanage ultimate to control them. I think you're on the right track for people who want serious power.

I really would like to test a p n p harness with my ultimate if you guys could come up with a prototype, I know where all of the wires go/etc as well as jumper settings, I just haven't been able to get the car going because of my hack wiring job and I don't want to try to rewire it again, I'd rather just have something neat and clean like your harness.
Exactly. We need to get a harness from the Ultimate, make a mold, wire it up then test. We will go ahead and get a start on it, and you will be our test mule Andy.
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Hopefully next summer Ill be running a dezod kit and a return line fuel system on my 01 em2. I realy want about and around 300 hp eventually but will be permagrinned with even 250 to the wheels and a mid 13 sec 1/4 mile et. How much psi u think I would need to run these numbers? Dezod is the man, him and ed @ truehonda have giving me hope for my 1.slow(what my volkswagenhead buddys call my em2)
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i know this is kinda off topic dezod but i was wondering if you plan to do a manifold for those of us suing a internal wastegate. i am going ot be using a t3/t4 .48ar and a 50trim. it is internall gated and i know i can just ditch the whole flapper assembly that is on the hot side. but i kinda like the ease of not having a divorced wastegate tube to deal with. i appreciate it and awesome news about the new harnesses. plug and play is ideal for people like me that suck at soldering and such. i can run stereo wires like a mad man but the smaller they get the worse i am.
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Anything else u need a test mule for?
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Hopefully next summer Ill be running a dezod kit and a return line fuel system on my 01 em2. I realy want about and around 300 hp eventually but will be permagrinned with even 250 to the wheels and a mid 13 sec 1/4 mile et. How much psi u think I would need to run these numbers? Dezod is the man, him and ed @ truehonda have giving me hope for my 1.slow(what my volkswagenhead buddys call my em2)
I would venture to say for 205-300whp, around 13-15 PSI on our T3/T4.
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i know this is kinda off topic dezod but i was wondering if you plan to do a manifold for those of us suing a internal wastegate. i am going ot be using a t3/t4 .48ar and a 50trim. it is internall gated and i know i can just ditch the whole flapper assembly that is on the hot side. but i kinda like the ease of not having a divorced wastegate tube to deal with. i appreciate it and awesome news about the new harnesses. plug and play is ideal for people like me that suck at soldering and such. i can run stereo wires like a mad man but the smaller they get the worse i am.
We are not fans of internal inconsistant gates. If you want a log done, we can do that, but no EL internally gated.
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i know this is kinda off topic dezod but i was wondering if you plan to do a manifold for those of us suing a internal wastegate. i am going ot be using a t3/t4 .48ar and a 50trim. it is internall gated and i know i can just ditch the whole flapper assembly that is on the hot side. but i kinda like the ease of not having a divorced wastegate tube to deal with.

They make block-off plates for TiAl wastegate flanges. Just buy Dezod's manifold and pop one of those on. No need for a custom job.

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So when will this stuff be out? Also is it going to be like you have to have the intake manifold to run the fuel system? You know what i mean like you have to buy everything in order for it to work? I would be highly interested in a fuel system
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Depends on what you want. If you want an adjustable fuel pressure regulater, yes, you need a return line. But that isn't necesarry if you size your injectors properly. Even if you pick up a rail with a fitting for a return line, you can always cap it if you need to, that's what I did, at least for now.
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So when will this stuff be out? Also is it going to be like you have to have the intake manifold to run the fuel system? You know what i mean like you have to buy everything in order for it to work? I would be highly interested in a fuel system
Not sure on ETA. We are going to try to make all the parts work well together and make them work individually, but that can not be guaranteed. We may have to have work it that you must have the IM and fuel system.
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Alright and when do you estimate this will be out and what kind of price are you estimating? I really want big injectors that fit without hitting the tps.
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