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Hey everyone... i know there has been alot of discussion and posts on this issue... but in about 3 weeks i will have enought to either get a nice turbo, or do a complete k20a2 swap into my 2002 civic coupe LX....
I was just wondering if i am better off buying a used k20a2 with about 30,000 km on it.... or boosting my d17 that has 56,000 km.
What are peoples thoughts?
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I have 90,000 miles, and am boosting my vic in a week or two. I am turbo'ing,a nd if that isnt enough power, I can always swap and use some of the turbo stuff on the Kseries. JMO. I bet everybody else says SWAP, screw the D17, pointless. A turbo'd vic could easily whoop on a Swapped stock vic. IMO plus it will be cheaper to mod the D17 for a lot of the stuff, but the K20s have more performance parts for it.
turbo's will run you more than a swap in the long run...so some people boosting have said. i have neither, but i'd prefer a swap over turbo...too much hassle to upkeep for me personally.
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well first off turbo'ing the D17 should be a couple thousand cheaper than a K20A2 swap.
A turbo'd D17 with an average tune should yeild about 240 whp and offer a much broader torque range than a stock K20A2.
However the highest output D17 is at about 300whp. Many mildly modded K20 motors can match that no problem.
SO it all comes down to how much power you want to make, if you think you'll be happy with 300whp or less than go for the boosted D17. But if you need more power than you should get the K20A2 and begin modding that.
I have had my K20 for 10km now and I have had no problems with it. Very reliable. Unlike turbo, and Im sorry if I upset any of you turbo fans out there, but if you want serious boost, you have to start building your D17 up pretty heavy for it to tolerate it. I would stick to a normally aspirated, in the long run you will be alot happier with a k20 swap then a turbo, and so will your wallet
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swap FOR SURE! No doubt about it... you can turbo a D17, its not too bad but you won't get anywhere close to the results you can get with a K20. D17 just doesn't have the potential. Plus, its money well spent.
lets see pay 6-8 grand for a swap with around 180 for the k20a2 9rsx type s) or pay 4 grand for 240hp? im gona take the 4 grand way for more hp so that would be turbo. sure you will say just turbo the swap ok so add another 4 grand to that top end payment your looking at 12 grand + odds and ends that would make your civic 30 grand from what you payed for it if you have an ex and mods. now with that much power with the swap your looking at new axils ect ect so your looking at even more then 12 grand.
i know i would not put another 12+grand into my car i would put a down payment on a 5 series bmw but thats just me...
the truth is your are paying more in the long run for a swap plus if you dont mod that swap you will get owned all day long by turboed d17's
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look swap 6 grand for a k20 non type s for only 160hp 4 grand for a turbo for 240ish hp on the d17?
hence allready paying more for your dumb swap then on top of that if you want to be faster and toss a turbo on there thats 4 grand bam 10 grand to be faster then a civic that only payed 4 grand or less for there turbo.
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if you have the cash for a k20 swap with enuff for a turbo go for it or you will get owned all day long by a turboed d17
Is that before or after you have to build your D17 up to get proper use and reliabilty out of it....Your cutting your engines life in half by bolting on a turbo and not doing any internals...
