D17 Turbo VS K20a2 Swap... which is better? - Page 5

deciuss · 02-09-2005

i drove a 528i 1999 before i got to many tickets when i was 16, was then downgraded to my civic.

i dont know a 5 series with the 225hp is to much cash for me but the normal 5 series with 185 is fine. still tryin gto decide to get that 3 with 255 or go to a 5 and only have 185. i think having the sides and part of the front bumper just black plastic would piss me off to much and i would regert not getting the 5

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K20EQUIPPED · 02-09-2005

5's own...I love the older m5's from 85....sick looking.

allmotor · 02-09-2005

i want to turbo, or nitrous my lil d but after seeing some of the n/a #'s off the k20a2's its tempting lol

SingleCamCivic · 02-10-2005

i wanna swap a K20a2 in my 04....there is a rear collision totaled RSX at my friends tow yard...just waiting for the insurance to want to sell it to a junk yard....then its on....

shaman · 02-10-2005

i have decided it is not worth it to get a k20a2 as apposed to boosting...

k20a2 = 200hp 140 torque.... 170whp....

The type s has VERY LITTLE torque.. and i think i am better off gettinga turbo.

However i am inexperienced when it coems to the swap, so can someone tell me with what "MODS", can you aquire a decent amount of power out of a k20a2. Please also list the prices that the parts would go for (state your currency)

deciuss · 02-10-2005

the k20 responds to mods very well i dont remeber the exact stats and prices but it does respond well

pwr2thaboost · 02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by shaman

Hey everyone... i know there has been alot of discussion and posts on this issue... but in about 3 weeks i will have enought to either get a nice turbo, or do a complete k20a2 swap into my 2002 civic coupe LX....

I was just wondering if i am better off buying a used k20a2 with about 30,000 km on it.... or boosting my d17 that has 56,000 km.

What are peoples thoughts?

Personally... i would go for the k20a2 swap... its easier to mod...and when its all done and over, i think u'll be more pleased with it

thebigjap · 02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by shaman

i have decided it is not worth it to get a k20a2 as apposed to boosting...

k20a2 = 200hp 140 torque.... 170whp....

The type s has VERY LITTLE torque.. and i think i am better off gettinga turbo.

However i am inexperienced when it coems to the swap, so can someone tell me with what "MODS", can you aquire a decent amount of power out of a k20a2. Please also list the prices that the parts would go for (state your currency)

Damn I was wondering when somebody would actually bring up the torque issue.

Yeah it is nice to say that the K engines can put out respectable whp numbers with relatively few mods, but the fact of the matter is that turbos increase hp and torque almost equally (at least from what i have seen). As far as "feeling" a power increase, you can "feel" an increase of 10 ft/lbs across the powerband vs 10 hp at sky high RPM.

But that is just my two cents.

aznboysrfr · 02-10-2005

going fast > feeling fast

xproductionz · 02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by deciuss

what is

about?

look swap 6 grand for a k20 non type s for only 160hp 4 grand for a turbo for 240ish hp on the d17?

hence allready paying more for your dumb swap then on top of that if you want to be faster and toss a turbo on there thats 4 grand bam 10 grand to be faster then a civic that only payed 4 grand or less for there turbo.

i dont know about you but my local shops here in my area are selling full k20 type s swaps are running $3000

xproductionz · 02-10-2005

just to add my 2 cents but we have a local guy running a type s rsx running all motor on drag radial tires and some cam gears and other bolt ons and hondata reflash and is putting out 11.3 at the 1/4 mile tracks.. now think about it.. if we had the same motor in our cars with the same mods we have an advantage over him due to our cars being lighter than the rsx...and he isnt even running turbo yet...too get a turboed d17 to run that you need a hella more boost which means a built block... we also have another local guy here running the SF kit in his D17 tuned and everything and is only putting down 160whp at 7-8psi.. what does that show you

02sleeper · 02-10-2005

ok first it depends on what you want if you want a very fast car then go k20 turbo if you want a fun street car the turbo a d17 or just do a k20 swap. k20 is an easier way to make power if you got a heavy pocket and the d17 is a cheap way to make moderate power

K20EQUIPPED · 02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by xproductionz

i dont know about you but my local shops here in my area are selling full k20 type s swaps are running $3000

$3000? With mounts and all? Damn that's a sweet price!!! I paid just under $8500 for mine when it was all said and done.

allmotor · 02-10-2005

shaman look at the posts on this thread with the dyno chart of the k20a2 with boltons cam and k-pro dyoning at 230.........

Civic_RedLine · 04-25-2005

stock k20 swap> boosted auto vic