D17 Turbo VS K20a2 Swap... which is better?

[K20EQUIPPED]

Yeah, in the short run maybe, but that one time you go to do so might be the time your D17 that could, might not be up to the stresses of a turbo and give out.

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[aznboysrfr]

dec: damn you're cocky.

you still haven't answered any of my questions in post #23

[shaman]

WOW... i wasnt expecting such a reaction.... but thanks to everyone for there replies... i have read each of your comments and i have gave them serious consideration.

Now i have a few statements/queestions.

Personally if i do a k20a2 swap.... it will cost me about $6000-7000 installed canadian
I figured if i do this, i dont have to worry about damaging my engine in the same way that i would if i were to boost my d17 with stock internals

I did a quick calculation, and for about $6000 canadian i can have a nice turbo setup that can handle 8-10 psi.... HOWEVER this involves alot of time because it is a hastle to look for parts to build your internals.

I figured with a k20a2 swap i can have it fully installed and ready to go at 170whp in about 3 weeks.

Honestly though i am still not sure what to do.... i dont want to pay $7000 for a swap and then regret not boosting instead.

[deciuss]

im not cocky i just hate people like K20EQUIPPED that know nothing about a turbo on a d17 and keep saying swap is better its cheeper ect ect.

my car sucks heck the trunk is even starting to rust due to somone scrached it but with my turbo the truth is i will pull on a swaped civic that has no other mods to it.

[aznboysrfr]

Originally Posted by shaman

Honestly though i am still not sure what to do.... i dont want to pay $7000 for a swap and then regret not boosting instead.

perhaps this will persuade you ...

mods are:

stock k20a2 with:

IPS-K2 cams
itr manifold w/ bored tb
hondata intake manifold gasket
cold air intake with prototype racing bell
dc race header
5zigen catback
kpro

AND consider the fact that this is n/a ... so you won't have as many traction problems as you will with a turbo

[aznboysrfr]

Originally Posted by deciuss

im not cocky i just hate people like K20EQUIPPED that know nothing about a turbo on a d17 and keep saying swap is better its cheeper ect ect.

my car sucks heck the trunk is even starting to rust due to somone scrached it but with my turbo the truth is i will pull on a swaped civic that has no other mods to it.

are you just going to ignore my questions on post 23?

[deciuss]

i allready said my set up cost me only 3,500
i dont know what psi im running the guys at the shop said it feals like 6 and sounds like 6. i dont have time to set up a controller ect ect due to school and its fing cold out.

what about manuel civics? thats a differnet story im coming from the perspective of a auto civic driver but K20EQUIPPED had to say swap is better then any d17 ect ect ect

[K20EQUIPPED]

Originally Posted by shaman

Personally if i do a k20a2 swap.... it will cost me about $6000-7000 installed canadian

Where are you located in Canada? I had my swap done at ALTECH in Toronto....Joe did a hella job...Everything runs smooth, clean swap...very professional...

http://www.altechperformance.com/main.shtml

[deciuss]

my posts number 16 and 29 actualy answerd your own questons for you and 16 was even before you asked

[K20EQUIPPED]

Originally Posted by deciuss

i dont know what psi im running the guys at the shop said it feals like 6 and sounds like 6.

LOL that's sounds reasuring

[aellerman]

so $6000 CDN is a completely built engine and a complete turbo kit? my complete turbo kit will cost me bout 1500 when done all my stuff is brand new turbo, intercooler, bov, manifold, e-manage, wastegate, all the lines, piping will be custom when install...injectors will be used

install with wideband dyno tuning and custom down pipe, intercooler piping and whatever other piping will be $1000

so im 2500 cdn MAX (might be a bit less) in the whole with wideband tuning...

if you build your engine and get good tuning you can run more than 8-10 psi... wasn't some guy running 14 safely on his built d17?

6000 CDN just sounds way over priced man i dont think it'll cost anywhere near that much

[deciuss]

so? i dont care and um actualy i trust them since they have been working on civics forever and have there own 10 second shop car that should be in the 9's this summer since they had to redo the turbo due to traction problems and it was to big.

[aznboysrfr]

Originally Posted by deciuss

i allready said my set up cost me only 3,500
i dont know what psi im running the guys at the shop said it feals like 6 and sounds like 6. i dont have time to set up a controller ect ect due to school and its fing cold out.

what about manuel civics? thats a differnet story im coming from the perspective of a auto civic driver but K20EQUIPPED had to say swap is better then any d17 ect ect ect

you can't judge how many boost you're running by listening to it ... nor could you just how much boost you're running by "feeling" it ...

once again, I encourage you to run your car at the track when it starts getting warm out. I guarantee you that at 6-7 psi you're not gonna be seeing 13's

[K20EQUIPPED]

Originally Posted by deciuss

so? i dont care and um actualy i trust them since they have been working on civics forever and have there own 10 second shop car that should be in the 9's this summer since they had to redo the turbo due to traction problems and it was to big.

Maybe they had to redo the turbo and engine because it "sounded" like it was kicking out only 8psi but only "felt" like 6psi.

[aellerman]

oh, and my buddy has a k20a2 in his ep3 with dc header, full exaust (no cat), re-flashed ecu 8800 redline (i think, maybe 8600), AEM CAI

he put down 188whp...