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I can show you a k20a swap with pretty much Needed parts to get it running good.. such as K-pro.. exhaust, header, intake that has 237whp.
here is a good breakdown... which do you want? 1 lobe of VTEC of 4?
Re-read what I said. STOCK k20, just bolt ons. You talk ecu upgrades and more money into the build, I talk more boost and smoke that 237whp k20. In fact, with a basic setup, I can run 13 psi all day long and make about 280-ish wheel and smoke a more heavily modded n/a rsx. Depends on the mods. Bottom line, power costs money. It is much more cost effective to pull power from a d17 instead of paying to swap in a k20 and make it fast.
Hell, I'll give you n/a bolt ons. Exhaust, header, intake, I'll still outrun it at 8 psi.
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^^ wow..... u know as long as ive been here.. people have been saying that the cost to benefit ratio of a boosted d17 was way less then that of a swapped k. ur the first person ive seen to actually say thats wrong and...have proof.. touché
Look at it this way. Spend no less than 4k on a swap when its all said and done. This is a basic swap. No real power. You need kpro. You can run kpro on the d17 for the same price. Boost a d17 with a kit for 3k plus maybe another 300 for injectors. You have a full turbo kit. Tune it (still will cost to have a k20 tuned on kpro, just the same) and you have way more power and potential with a d17. Depending on your turbo setup and its capabilities, another 600 for cam and spring/retainer kit and you've got even more potential.
You can realistically make 300 whp with:
kpro-1200
dezod turbo kit-3k
injectors-300
cam/springs & retainers-600
tuning-600-800 (depending on your tuner's charges and what map you start with, etc.)
So that's 300 whp+ for under 6k
Show me anyone who's swapped a k20 into an em2 and broken that mark with 6k....
300 whp shit on stock rods,yea for maybe a day or a week tops!These stock rods cannot handle that much horsepower no way u look at it!And all i have heard about ur car andyman is that its a piece!Now look at like the cars that really run auto x and actualy get driven thats a real built car that can actually run!over and over All u people on this site just think because u are making 300 plus horsepower u are god,well check it out real car legends are not on the web all day bragging there ass off day after day about the one car they have buit!
Look at it this way. Spend no less than 4k on a swap when its all said and done. This is a basic swap. No real power. You need kpro. You can run kpro on the d17 for the same price. Boost a d17 with a kit for 3k plus maybe another 300 for injectors. You have a full turbo kit. Tune it (still will cost to have a k20 tuned on kpro, just the same) and you have way more power and potential with a d17. Depending on your turbo setup and its capabilities, another 600 for cam and spring/retainer kit and you've got even more potential.
You can realistically make 300 whp with:
kpro-1200
dezod turbo kit-3k
injectors-300
cam/springs & retainers-600
tuning-600-800 (depending on your tuner's charges and what map you start with, etc.)
So that's 300 whp+ for under 6k
Show me anyone who's swapped a k20 into an em2 and broken that mark with 6k....
yeah... but i like my Air conditioning!
hehe im just messing with ya man... but i have never looked at it that way.
But what would you say to Boosting an auto D17, or swapping to a manual k20?? See this is the debate i run with myself...
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300 whp shit on stock rods,yea for maybe a day or a week tops!These stock rods cannot handle that much horsepower no way u look at it!And all i have heard about ur car andyman is that its a piece!Now look at like the cars that really run auto x and actualy get driven thats a real built car that can actually run!over and over All u people on this site just think because u are making 300 plus horsepower u are god,well check it out real car legends are not on the web all day bragging there ass off day after day about the one car they have buit!
Ok, you clearly have no clue as to what you're talking about. You've heard my car's a piece? Well, let me tell you something. You have a few options in this game, 1) Pay through the nose for someone to do your work for you and not learn a damned thing about motors and mechanic work 2) Have a slow piece that runs all the time and makes no power. 3) Do it yourself and push as far as you can because you love it while you learn something. Come see my car for yourself and go for a ride, then tell me its a piece.
I have been driving on a STOCK bottom end for the past 4 months, driving hard the whole time and my rods are still in tact. So are my pistons. Haven't had a single maintenance issue with it. And you think this is the only car I've built, you're wrong, you don't know me, you don't know what I've built so why don't you STFU, n00b.
Ok, you clearly have no clue as to what you're talking about. You've heard my car's a piece? Well, let me tell you something. You have a few options in this game, 1) Pay through the nose for someone to do your work for you and not learn a damned thing about motors and mechanic work 2) Have a slow piece that runs all the time and makes no power. 3) Do it yourself and push as far as you can because you love it while you learn something. Come see my car for yourself and go for a ride, then tell me its a piece.
I have been driving on a STOCK bottom end for the past 4 months, driving hard the whole time and my rods are still in tact. So are my pistons. Haven't had a single maintenance issue with it. And you think this is the only car I've built, you're wrong, you don't know me, you don't know what I've built so why don't you STFU, n00b.
can i be the first to say "OWNAGE!!"
andyman is a he knows his stuff... read up
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Look at it this way. Spend no less than 4k on a swap when its all said and done. This is a basic swap. No real power. You need kpro. You can run kpro on the d17 for the same price. Boost a d17 with a kit for 3k plus maybe another 300 for injectors. You have a full turbo kit. Tune it (still will cost to have a k20 tuned on kpro, just the same) and you have way more power and potential with a d17. Depending on your turbo setup and its capabilities, another 600 for cam and spring/retainer kit and you've got even more potential.
You can realistically make 300 whp with:
kpro-1200
dezod turbo kit-3k
injectors-300
cam/springs & retainers-600
tuning-600-800 (depending on your tuner's charges and what map you start with, etc.)
So that's 300 whp+ for under 6k
Show me anyone who's swapped a k20 into an em2 and broken that mark with 6k....
im into my K24 build just shy of 5g.. I'll run you.
Everyone has different tastes, do what suits you. I happen to like single cams for their simplicity. I have build tons of cars, engines, bikes, etc. Many different varieties. I also own an RSX-s, stock. My old stock D17 setup on 6-7 psi stage 1 clutch, and a crower cam would destroy the RSX by almost a full second in the quarter. Mind you if I put equal mods on the RSX it would probably make 100HP more and it would take things the other way. My question is this, why not buy a nice used rsx for like 10k instead of going through the work of swapping a civic. If we are taking cost effectiveness with K20s that would be the best bet IMO.
I got ur ownage hangin !alpha 5 u wanna talk shit to me with ur 4x4 4door ricer hood piece of shiaaattt! about being able to run 300whp on stock rods ur trippin u dont know shit about anything!show proof or shut the fuck up with ur stories and bullshit!And anyone who says andyman is a pimp,yea ur pimp maybe lil fag!Grow up and run ur cars dont talk about them!Go to the track and prove what the fuck u say!Timeslips are all that matters nothing else!
I got ur ownage hangin !alpha 5 u wanna talk shit to me with ur 4x4 4door ricer hood piece of shiaaattt! about being able to run 300whp on stock rods ur trippin u dont know shit about anything!show proof or shut the fuck up with ur stories and bullshit!And anyone who says andyman is a pimp,yea ur pimp maybe lil fag!Grow up and run ur cars dont talk about them!Go to the track and prove what the fuck u say!Timeslips are all that matters nothing else!
dude before u get your bright red panties in a bunch y dont u just sit back, and get your info straight before u go pointing fingers posting like a thirteen y/o kid who just got his feelings hurt because someone called him a noob. look here
all day bragging there ass off day after day about the one car they have buit! 
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he knows his stuff... read up
