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Old 03-14-2005   #16 (permalink)
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it would be nice, but probably wont hold up to near that.

The shop thats tuning my car said to go get an EMS. They hate the emanage. And with all harnesses for the emanage your gonna be spending a lot anyways. They werent trying to sell me any of them. I told them I buy stuff online, so they know whats up. Just like to use the EMS, they say its much much easier to tune. the tsi unit just blows ass. better than afc's though. but just the same as why you wouldnt want to tune with them for a turbo'd car.
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Yeah my shop told me that to but I told them to suck a nut I'm sticking with emanage lol
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thats what they say, people do not give the auto tranny enuff credit there was a member running 12psi on the civic auto tranny not built. and all im looking for is 300hp really just 305 .

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We'll see, cuz mines auto too lol
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lets hope my stick is whoopoing on you guys, lol. I hate being able to boost 5psi. it sucks a**. I want at least 12, but I can deal easily with 7 or 8 for now. If anybody asks how much boost im running and wants to race, ill be like, uuhhhhhh 5 lbs. theyre gonna laugh at me hardcore. Probably not, but still sucks
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Exclamation Brain transplant is most important mod!

I don't understand the big deal about spending $1.5k for AEM's ems. To use a physiological analogy: If you're going to pay close to $6.5k to upgrade heart, musculo-skeletal, circulatory and digestive systems (i.e., turbo, internals, fuel injection, P&P and exhaust), and another $2.5k to strengthen limbs and improve coordination (i.e., drivetrain and suspension), you do not want to skimp on the brain and nervous system (i.e, EMS, A/F monitor and boost controls) which are the most critical mods both to maximize performance and to avoid catastrophic failure. When I bought my 2k2vic I figured I'd have to invest at about $10k to convert from ULEV to mustang eater. Two years ago the upgrade options were extremely limited due to lack of aftermarket support and little understanding of 7thgen's ULEV tuning. Now that we have the technology and know how people bitch about pricing.
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Well, another point is that fact that you don't really need the EMS unles your gonna start going to like 14 lbs and above. You can easily have a mildly tuned car with the emanage for a lesser cost, but the emanage won't help you as you climb higher into the boost ladder. The AEM system is a great cost for benifit machine IF you are running alot of boost, but you can get the same results if you arn't running a ton of boost with the emanage.
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Thanks.... I haven't heard that in a while lol
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Not everyone has $1.5K. Thats almost 3 times the cost of what you can get the emanage w/ all harnesses and support tool for.
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Question: Regaurding the safc. I totaly understand optos first post, but i have a question. How is timing affected when - corrections are made instead of + corrections? Is the timing retarded to some degree when you make negative corrections with the safc? Im just wanting to know for personal information.
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I'm getting my set up installed tomorrow (starting tomorrow), and my shop told me that eManage is great until up into to 12psi and up. But he said if I get up there, I'll have to upgrade a lot more other things before getting an EMS.
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Question: Regaurding the safc. I totaly understand optos first post, but i have a question. How is timing affected when - corrections are made instead of + corrections? Is the timing retarded to some degree when you make negative corrections with the safc? Im just wanting to know for personal information.

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