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Auto to Manual
ive searched and found this thread
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=123114
ok can anyone give me prices on these parts?
-Manual Transmission
-Flywheel/Clutch/Pressure Plate/Adjusting Tool
-ECU
-Starter
-Subframe
-Axles
-Master Cylinder
-Slave Cylinder
-Clutch Lines
-Shifter Assembly w/ Linkage
-Pedal Assembly
-Dash Wiring Harness
-Engine Harness
-Center Console (shift boot area)
-Shift **** and Boot
ok what i need to know.
do you really need a manual tranny ECU? do you need the engine harness and dash harness? on this car is it nessecary to cut the floorpan to accomidate the shifter assembly?
any input would be helpful. especially from ppl who have done this. i will be doing this to my 04 coupe soon. right now im locating parts and will start ordering by october
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=123114
ok can anyone give me prices on these parts?
-Manual Transmission
-Flywheel/Clutch/Pressure Plate/Adjusting Tool
-ECU
-Starter
-Subframe
-Axles
-Master Cylinder
-Slave Cylinder
-Clutch Lines
-Shifter Assembly w/ Linkage
-Pedal Assembly
-Dash Wiring Harness
-Engine Harness
-Center Console (shift boot area)
-Shift **** and Boot
ok what i need to know.
do you really need a manual tranny ECU? do you need the engine harness and dash harness? on this car is it nessecary to cut the floorpan to accomidate the shifter assembly?
any input would be helpful. especially from ppl who have done this. i will be doing this to my 04 coupe soon. right now im locating parts and will start ordering by october
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Rep Power: 0 ive been searching for the on ebay and have asked on the forums.. this seems to be a hard to find part.. i just need prices from the above list
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Rep Power: 0 why all that just for a manual? honestly, u are better of selling your ride and buying a stick shift. u will run into problem in the future with the swap and ur car will never be in great condition again.
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Originally Posted by civicrider01
why all that just for a manual? honestly, u are better of selling your ride and buying a stick shift. u will run into problem in the future with the swap and ur car will never be in great condition again.
I know people that have done it and have them done for three years and they have had no problem. If u can prove you will have problems then show us
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Rep Power: 260 a trans swap should cost $1000 at the most. a k is 5 times more than that.......maybe he doesnt have an extra 5 grand to throw around
your best bet is to just go to every junkyard around you and grab parts. i started to look, but gave up and bought new wheels
your best bet is to just go to every junkyard around you and grab parts. i started to look, but gave up and bought new wheels
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Rep Power: 0 im only 17 and cant afford a k20 at the moment.. i just want a stick car.. and no im not gonna sell my car.... the experince of doing it will last for my lifetime 
and im not looking to go fast.. i like to do a little autocross and want a stick so i can make use of my powerband
ive been reading up on all things i could search
i just need answers to this
do you really need a manual tranny ECU? do you need the engine harness and dash harness? on this car is it nessecary to cut the floorpan to accomidate the shifter assembly?
and if possible est prices on all the parts ive listed above?
haha yea i dont have much.. as i said earlier im 17 working and not getting more than 400 a month.
i live in hawaii (kauai to be exact) and theres only 1 junkyard here.. i go there weekly to see if theres anything available.. there once was a blue em2 stick there.. but i was only 14 haha and didnt think about doing this yet
and adding to that, since i live in hawaii shipping is gonna be rape.. so might as well make that $1000 estamite to $1500 just for shipping
and im not looking to go fast.. i like to do a little autocross and want a stick so i can make use of my powerband
ive been reading up on all things i could search
i just need answers to this
do you really need a manual tranny ECU? do you need the engine harness and dash harness? on this car is it nessecary to cut the floorpan to accomidate the shifter assembly?
and if possible est prices on all the parts ive listed above?
Originally Posted by dp_yz713
a trans swap should cost $1000 at the most. a k is 5 times more than that.......maybe he doesnt have an extra 5 grand to throw around
your best bet is to just go to every junkyard around you and grab parts. i started to look, but gave up and bought new wheels
your best bet is to just go to every junkyard around you and grab parts. i started to look, but gave up and bought new wheels
i live in hawaii (kauai to be exact) and theres only 1 junkyard here.. i go there weekly to see if theres anything available.. there once was a blue em2 stick there.. but i was only 14 haha and didnt think about doing this yet
and adding to that, since i live in hawaii shipping is gonna be rape.. so might as well make that $1000 estamite to $1500 just for shipping
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Rep Power: 287 prices on those are going to vary man. It depends how patient and how good you are in finding these parts. I'v known a guy who got all those parts for 500 bucks.
i've heard you don't really need a manual ECU, but its recommended. Why leave that part out when diong all this other stuff? makes no sense right.
i've heard you don't really need a manual ECU, but its recommended. Why leave that part out when diong all this other stuff? makes no sense right.
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Rep Power: 260 yah shipping is whats giong to hurt you. you can always go kamikazi with another vehicle besides your civic and wreck into a stick civic, and then go to the junkyard and get the parts lol
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Originally Posted by D5cIvIc
prices on those are going to vary man. It depends how patient and how good you are in finding these parts. I'v known a guy who got all those parts for 500 bucks.
i've heard you don't really need a manual ECU, but its recommended. Why leave that part out when diong all this other stuff? makes no sense right.
i've heard you don't really need a manual ECU, but its recommended. Why leave that part out when diong all this other stuff? makes no sense right.
im really patient as i have no intent on starting this until winterbreak (late dec- early jan) because i have school.. i live in hawaii so its like summer year round here
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Rep Power: 0 ok.. do u know anything about the wiring harness
if i buy the revo SS
will it take care of my shifter assembly? all i would need to do if find the nuts and the shift linkage
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...spagenameZWDVW
if i buy the revo SS
will it take care of my shifter assembly? all i would need to do if find the nuts and the shift linkage
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...spagenameZWDVW
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Rep Power: 450 you said you cant afford a k20 at the moment right? so therefor you will get one eventually and have to get a new trans anyway....i say this is a waste of money and wait till you are older and have more money
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Originally Posted by JDMInspired
ok.. do u know anything about the wiring harness
if i buy the revo SS
will it take care of my shifter assembly? all i would need to do if find the nuts and the shift linkage
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...spagenameZWDVW
if i buy the revo SS
will it take care of my shifter assembly? all i would need to do if find the nuts and the shift linkage
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...spagenameZWDVW
no but i am searching on that right now. i don't think we need one, but i'm gonna do it just in case to save myself from having to redo everything in case it doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by RHCP0801
you said you cant afford a k20 at the moment right? so therefor you will get one eventually and have to get a new trans anyway....i say this is a waste of money and wait till you are older and have more money
i just wanna do stick at the moment
Originally Posted by Civicman1988
no but i am searching on that right now. i don't think we need one, but i'm gonna do it just in case to save myself from having to redo everything in case it doesn't work.
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Rep Power: 230 i also drive an auto but the cost of swapping just the tranny isnt worth it. d17s, auto or stick, is still slow unless its turbo'd. save ur money for a k20a3 if ur on a budget. its one of the cheapest k20s but u still get decent gains.
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Rep Power: 260 maybe he doesnt want to go fast, just have fun driving a stick. he said he just wants to have more fun autocrossing anyway. i dont see why everyone says get a k20, cuz anything else sucks.
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Originally Posted by dp_yz713
maybe he doesnt want to go fast, just have fun driving a stick. he said he just wants to have more fun autocrossing anyway. i dont see why everyone says get a k20, cuz anything else sucks.
agree no one has made the effort to build anything for are cars or even build them up. i plan on building a performance motor for mine. i just get sick of hearing k20 ya there fast. maybe its because i dont have one
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Rep Power: 267 You dont really need a manual ecu in order for it to work, I have a buddy that swapped his auto to manual and is still running his auto ecu. Its been a year now and no problems. As far as the cluster, you can still use your auto cluster, only difference is the P R N D D3 2 will be there thats it. and no you do not need a new dash harness or whatever.
And yes, people have tried to build the D17, the problem is... the amount you have to spend in order to see any gain is not worth it. Thats why no one bothers.
And yes, people have tried to build the D17, the problem is... the amount you have to spend in order to see any gain is not worth it. Thats why no one bothers.
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Originally Posted by JDMInspired
ill stick with a d17 w/ manual tranny..
i just wanna have fun with stick and autocross.. not looking to go SUPER fast
i just wanna have fun with stick and autocross.. not looking to go SUPER fast
thats how i look at it if i have a lot of speed i might do something stubbed
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Originally Posted by Nameless
You dont really need a manual ecu in order for it to work, I have a buddy that swapped his auto to manual and is still running his auto ecu. Its been a year now and no problems. As far as the cluster, you can still use your auto cluster, only difference is the P R N D D3 2 will be there thats it. and no you do not need a new dash harness or whatever.
And yes, people have tried to build the D17, the problem is... the amount you have to spend in order to see any gain is not worth it. Thats why no one bothers.
And yes, people have tried to build the D17, the problem is... the amount you have to spend in order to see any gain is not worth it. Thats why no one bothers.
Originally Posted by Civicman1988
thats how i look at it if i have a lot of speed i might do something stubbed
ya if u auto-x like in a parking lot without much stright what u gonna do with all that power?
also.. does the engine need to be removed to do this swap or can it be done w/o removing the engine? or is it too hard to do it w/o removing the trans?
can the a/c compressor be pushed back w/o removing anylines so i can reconnect it w/o recharging if i do need to remove the engine?
i just realized, if we swap out ECU's our immobilizer will be fuked!
some1 said u can run a auto ecu.. i wil probabaly do that to reduce the issues
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...=201909&page=4
post 46 states by DFCivic:
Originally Posted by AzNmiKex215
whats this i hear about swapping a auto to a manual, that the "D" will keep blinking on the guages?
I DIDNT REALY PAY ATTENTION TO THE D BLINKING BUT FOR US AUTO'S YOU HAVE TO ADRESS A WIRING ISSUE FOR THIS. I HAVE AND IT WORKED. YOULL FIND IF YOU DONT, YOUR KEY WILL BE STUCK IN THE IGNITION BECAUSE THE CAR THINKS YOUR IN R,N,OR D. ITS A SIMPLE FIX.
whats the fix?
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JDMInspire hmm ok.. but if i can get ahold of a MT ecu i will get one
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ya if u auto-x like in a parking lot without much stright what u gonna do with all that power?
also.. does the engine need to be removed to do this swap or can it be done w/o removing the engine? or is it too hard to do it w/o removing the trans?
can the a/c compressor be pushed back w/o removing anylines so i can reconnect it w/o recharging if i do need to remove the engine?
i just realized, if we swap out ECU's our immobilizer will be fuked!
some1 said u can run a auto ecu.. i wil probabaly do that to reduce the issues
+1
ya if u auto-x like in a parking lot without much stright what u gonna do with all that power?
also.. does the engine need to be removed to do this swap or can it be done w/o removing the engine? or is it too hard to do it w/o removing the trans?
can the a/c compressor be pushed back w/o removing anylines so i can reconnect it w/o recharging if i do need to remove the engine?
i just realized, if we swap out ECU's our immobilizer will be fuked!
some1 said u can run a auto ecu.. i wil probabaly do that to reduce the issues
i wouldn't remove the engine. just take the wheel well off and try to work w/o taking it out. i'm probably gonna be doing my swap the same week you are. i'm just saving up and trying to get parts. thanks for the rep.
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Rep Power: 325 There shouldn't be an actual "dash harness" specifically for the transmission type. The ecu wires that control the multiplex will relay the same information but the display will be different based on the cluster you have.
The engine harness may be a different story. I would think that you would probably need a manual's engine harness due to the variable transmission and the different controls on the ecu...but then again, you may be able to just leave that clip unplugged. The ecu is a must.
What I would do if I were doing this swap is search www.car-part.com and find a salvage yard that has basically an entire manual civic that has all required trans. parts in tact and swing a deal with them for all the parts you will need. See if you can get away with like 300-350 or something for everything and save yourself money and time.... These parts are so readily available, believe that they don't move fast and you shouldn't have a problem finding a yard that will hook you up.
The engine harness may be a different story. I would think that you would probably need a manual's engine harness due to the variable transmission and the different controls on the ecu...but then again, you may be able to just leave that clip unplugged. The ecu is a must.
What I would do if I were doing this swap is search www.car-part.com and find a salvage yard that has basically an entire manual civic that has all required trans. parts in tact and swing a deal with them for all the parts you will need. See if you can get away with like 300-350 or something for everything and save yourself money and time.... These parts are so readily available, believe that they don't move fast and you shouldn't have a problem finding a yard that will hook you up.
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Rep Power: 258 in the middle of the swap now you dont need the dash wiring or engine wiring...
you dont need to cut a hole in the floor either every civic was made for manual and has all the cutouts/hole for the pedals and wut not already in the car everything bolts on..
you dont need to cut a hole in the floor either every civic was made for manual and has all the cutouts/hole for the pedals and wut not already in the car everything bolts on..
