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Old 01-02-2006
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DIY Mechanical O2 simulator

Ive been asked about how to do this process on more than one occasion and have been happy to supply the information. Hopefully someone will add this to the FAQ on turbos to help save some members some time ......

These are NOT my photos but im unsure of who the owner is exzactly. But they do give some very good photos and i hope that they dont mind






You now need to drill out 1 of the non foulers using a 1/2" drill bit. When finished this is what it will look like.




o2 Sensor inserted in the modified non fouler


Second, unmodified non fouler now installed on modified non fouler, then threaded into the downpipe

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I think you already had same thread sometime back. I've used your info to built same thing.
Can say its your own ?
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good post. i saw this on some ep3 forum a while back and did this same thing. works great
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how does this work? It just picks up less emmission gasses since its further back?
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Im hoping it to get added to the FAQ i know its sorta a pre-post
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Nahhh, you were just the more recent person to ask But if we can get a mod to add this to the FAQ it will save people time i hope

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You do this to the first 02 sensor right ( The one before the cat).
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The second O2 sensor NOT the first!
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You do this to the first 02 sensor right ( The one before the cat).
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lol, if you did this to the first o2 sensor, youd be throwing all sorts of codes.
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so what does this do exactly or how does it work
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it restricts the amount of exhaust that gets to the second o2 sensor. This gives it a higher AFR reading. This simulates the cat doing its job when its not there

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so what does this do exactly or how does it work
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Originally Posted by nick95673
how does this work? It just picks up less emmission gasses since its further back?
That is exactly how it works... (Correct me if I am wrong)

Very GOOD Post!!!! I have done the same thing with mine. I have been threw two state inspections and has lasted a year and a half. I have that Megan Racing down pipe by the way. Great job!

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I bought a casper 02 sim from Hivtec a while back, he's from PR too, and it was cheap and the B!tch engine light is off
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oh be sure to get the 18mm and not the 14mm. i accedently got the wrong ones the first time.
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This works great, put it on when i installed a megan test pipe on my g/f's car last night, no cel. Sounds killer too.
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This tip quite possibly saved my sanity. KUDOS!
Works great on my ebay special catless downpipe...!
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so now lets say i do this, could it potentially cause tuning issues because the ecu is reading incorrect data and adjusting a/f ratio off of it, or does the ecu only adjust a/f according to the first o2 sensor?
i think im gonna try it.
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so now lets say i do this, could it potentially cause tuning issues because the ecu is reading incorrect data and adjusting a/f ratio off of it, or does the ecu only adjust a/f according to the first o2 sensor?
i think im gonna try it.
The ecu only adjust AFR off of the first O2 sensor
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I Have 3 02 Sensors so i use this on the 2nd one, before the cat, and the third one after the cat right????
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Originally Posted by nighthawk1903
I Have 3 02 Sensors so i use this on the 2nd one, before the cat, and the third one after the cat right????
you have 3?? stock? either way, you want to use it on the one after the cat only.
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I have a HX with a EX header an testpipe conversion now my header has 2 02 sensors top an bottom.an my cat has one after, my stock manifold had a honeycomb like resonator on it i might get some pics if need be,an the cat had one, so i have 1 02 bypass in the testpipe check engine light (STILL ON)..... I didn't drill it out could this be why???? an what would happen if i put it on the lower 02 sensor ????????/
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Originally Posted by nighthawk1903
I have a HX with a EX header an testpipe conversion now my header has 2 02 sensors top an bottom.an my cat has one after, my stock manifold had a honeycomb like resonator on it i might get some pics if need be,an the cat had one, so i have 1 02 bypass in the testpipe check engine light (STILL ON)..... I didn't drill it out could this be why???? an what would happen if i put it on the lower 02 sensor ????????/
Im so confused by what your saying. .......This is how it should be.

First O2 sensor in manifold closest to the cyl head

Second O2 sensor further down pipe , past cat converter( if you have one )THIS IS THE ONE THE FOULERS SHOULD BE ON AND YES IT MUST BE DRILLED OUT OR THE O2 SENSOR WOUNT FIT IN IT!
Third O2 sensor......... Unless its a wideband i have NO idea what your talking about
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cant a shop do something while the cars being dyn0-tuned so that the cel will never come on for cat codes?
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What are they going to do? Only way to remove a CEL is to fix the problem or trick it into thinking you fixed the problem which this does. You could go with the AEM EMS which you can disable ob2 completely.

I would like to do this mod myself but I'm limited to space where my downpipe is. Anybody got an idea on how I could make an angled part fit with the same purpose?
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f#ck the ems!
i dunno i just heard from a friend that they can do this.
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ok so i did this. i drilled it out right and everything, but i can't make it thru a tank of gas now without a cel. i went to autozone... code was p139 slow response...? HELP.
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ok, here is a q for ya, if i get a high flow cat, will i still need to do this?


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