Go Back   Honda Civic Forum > GENERAL > Honda Civic DIYs and Civic Tech Chat
Reload this Page

DIY: Change your Transmission Oil

Honda Civic DIYs and Civic Tech Chat Honda Civic DIYs and Civic Tech Chat - for the true gearheads! Bring your wrench, it's time for some Honda Civic DIY projects! Questions about problems with your car do NOT go here.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-10-2004   #1 (permalink)
Grey
DIY King
 
Grey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, US
Age: 31
Posts: 11,475
Grey has a spectacular aura aboutGrey has a spectacular aura about
iTrader: (61)
Smile DIY: Change your Transmission Oil

NOTE: Pics coming soon!

Purpose of this DIY:

The Maintenence Schedule for our Civics mentions that you should replace the transmission fluid at 60,000 miles. I have heard of other people replacing their transmission fluid much sooner than that at 30,000 miles. Whichever mileage you choose, you will notice a crisper feeling to the shifter and smoother shifts after performing this DIY.

Materials needed:

- Jackstands x4
- Floor Jack
- 2 to 3 quarts of 10W-30 SAE SJ SG SH Motor Oil
- Manual Pump
- 17mm Socket
- Socket Wrench
- Oil Pan
- Plastic Container

Note on jackstands: You will need four jackstands because you will need access to the transmission filler bolt and the car must be level when checking the level of oil. Refer to Page 222 of your Civics owner's manual for more information. I happened to already have two jack stands, so I bought two more (the cheap 2-ton variety) from Walmart for $9.

Note on transmission oil: The owner's manual says that you should only use Honda's transmission oil, but it also mentions that you can use any SAE certified 10W-30 or 10W-40 grade SJ, SG, or SH motor oil as a temporary replacement. The owner manual mentions the same thing when talking about engine oil, so don't worry about using non-Honda oil.

Note on manual pump: I bought a cheapie off of HarborFreightTools.com for $10 when I was buying my manual tire changer. I also happened to spot one for $20 at Sears. My cheapie works just fine, so I suspect that the more expensive ones are a waste of money. Maybe if you're doing this 24/7, then it's a good investment, but at once every 60,000 miles you should get a cheapie.

Associated costs:

I paid about $25 for all of the materials that I needed to perform this DIY. Your expenses may be higher or lower depending upon what you already have. If you don't have any jackstands you could use concrete blocks and the stock jack to raise your car up. If you'de like to buy the cheapie jack and jackstands, then Walmart is your friend.

The socket set and socket wrench can't be replaced by a Crescent® adjustable wrench. There's simply too little room to work. If you're into tools, then you can get a very good set from HarborFreightTools.com for very little money. Compare their prices with the prices of Lowe's or Home Depot and you'll be amazed.

Instructions:

Raise the front of the car up using the floor jack. Make sure to place the jack under the front support point (pointed to by the arrow engraved in the black plastic guard underneath). Place two jack stands under the front support points (they stick out underneath on the sides behind the front wheel wells). Consult the owner's manual if in doubt as to their location.

Raise the rear of the car up using the floor jack and a short block of wood. I don't like scratching my undercarriage up and I can't elevate the car high enough by using the tow hook as a jacking point. Instead, I use a block of wood as an isolator and I place the jack in the center of the lower control arm attachment points (the metal that rear lower tie bars are attached to).

Place two jacks under the rear support points (they stick out underneath on the sides in front of the rear wheel wells). Again, consult the owner's manual if you don't know where they are. Now, here's the sneaky part... You can raise up the front of the car more than the rear to have better access to the transmission oil with the manual pump. You can also raise the rear up higher to be able to pump in more of the transmission oil. I did neither when I performed this DIY; it's just something that came to mind when I was done.

Locate the transmission oil filler bolt. Refer to page nr. 222 of the owner's manual for a picture of it's location. You'll need good lighting when you're working under your car, or else you'll come out from under there covered in oil and you won't even know it. At the very least, position a flashlight to direct light at the filler bolt. If you need an excuse to buy another tool, then I suggest that you get one of those hanging lights that uses regular light bulbs.

Place the oil pan under the transmission oil filler bolt hole and use the 17mm socket and socket wrench to loosen it. Unscrew it the rest of the way by hand and be ready for some oil to flow out (more or less, depending on how you adjusted your jack stands). Assemble the manual pump according to its instructions. Mine came with an adapter for a smaller diameter hose and the hose itself, which I used to put into the transmission housing. The larger diameter hose also fit, but not all the way in.

Feel around with the hose inside of the transmission housing to reach the lowest spot possible. Make sure that the hose does not move; I simply wedged it in there and it stayed put. Then begin pumping out the old transmission oil into any plastic container with a large capacity and a narrow neck (like a used milk container), or else you'll cover everything in oil as it tends to not flow smoothly. Instead, it gushes out in waves and can make quite a mess if you try to catch it in the oil pan. The oil pan is just there to catch any oil coming out of the transmission oil filler bolt hole.

After you pump out all of the old transmission oil, you will need to pump in the new transmission oil. To do this you will need to reverse the hoses on the pump, so that the oil is pumped into the transmission housing through the smaller diameter hose. I was able to pump in more than two full quarts of oil, although I did end up wasting a little in the process. You should stop pumping when the oil starts to leak out from the transmission oil filler bolt hole.

At this point I put the transmission oil filler bolt back into place and torqued it down conservatively (25 - 35 foot pounds). It's not load bearing and has a crush washer that should act as a spring to keep the bolt from vibrating out. I then lowered the car and cleaned up everything that was covered in oil. If you're wondering what to do with the old oil... Simply return it to the place where you bought your new oil. For me that was Walmart; they should take it back from you without question. Most states have laws that require the people who sell oil to take back used oil and then dispose of it properly.

The very last part of this DIY requires that you do everyting over again after driving around for a while. I did and I was able to fill up the transmission housing with even more oil. Maybe it was the air bubbles that had to settle out of the oil? Maybe it was the recesses that I couldn't get to the first time? Maybe the oil was thrown into the recesses that I couldn't get to under cornering forces? Who knows how it happened, the fact is that I was able to put in another half a pint of oil.

Driving Impressions:

I did this DIY about 2,500 miles ago and I think it's worth it. I can "feel" the gears through the shifter much better than before. Shifting is "crisper" than ever and 2nd doesn't pop out on me as much as it used to. As a side-story, the 2nd gear poppping out problem is on certain 2001 Civics and is covered under warranty, but I didn't get it fixed before my warranty expired. Oh well, I can live with it. Especially since my plan is to get a K24/K20A2 frankenstein motor into my car later on down the road.
Grey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2004   #2 (permalink)
ctx66
Super Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Age: 89
Posts: 939
ctx66 will become famous soon enoughctx66 will become famous soon enough
iTrader: (0)
id try to stick to honda mtf insted of motor oil. its not very expensive. the way i see it, even if you change your fluid only once a year, say every 12-15k, which is drastically below the recommended interval, youd only be spending around $8 per year on fluid, vs $2-3 for motor oil. i bet i could find the $5-6 dollar difference in change around my house
ctx66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2004   #3 (permalink)
streetglower
7thGen Junkie
 
streetglower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Miami (Pembroke Pines), Florida
Age: 26
Posts: 17,208
streetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to all
iTrader: (13)
you might wanna note that this is a DIY for Manual trannsmissions, auto transmission fluid change uses different fluid and the process is a bit different with different tools.
streetglower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2004   #4 (permalink)
PunkingCivic
I need TP for my bunghole
 
PunkingCivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: OXNARD, CA. SoCal. "805", North of L.A.
Age: 31
Posts: 7,859
PunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud ofPunkingCivic has much to be proud of
iTrader: (3)
good DIY..
I love www.HarborFreight.com.
I live close to one.
I can spend hours in that store buying stuff.
PunkingCivic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2004   #5 (permalink)
CivicRookie
Jeremy's Iron
 
CivicRookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Baytown, Texas, US
Age: 27
Posts: 1,474
CivicRookie is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
Cool. I needed to know this DIY.
CivicRookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2004   #6 (permalink)
AggressiveAdam
Platinum Member
 
AggressiveAdam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,614
AggressiveAdam is on a distinguished road
iTrader: (4)
anything honda recommends multiply it by 1.5 imo


I had my tranny repalced at 40,0000 and am now at 101,000 (km) and my mechanic said i dont need a tranny fluid change, at least I know my mechanics honest, I went to one of those quick lube places, and they told me to drain my tranny fluid 15k after i got the new tranny installed. I told them they should be ashamed of themselves
AggressiveAdam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2004   #7 (permalink)
7Gnoob
Senior Member
 
7Gnoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Brampton, On
Age: 26
Posts: 374
7Gnoob is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
You don't need the pump... there is a drain at the bottom of the housing that you can remove using only a ratchet (without a socket on it). To fill I used a tube and funnel.
7Gnoob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2004   #8 (permalink)
streetglower
7thGen Junkie
 
streetglower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Miami (Pembroke Pines), Florida
Age: 26
Posts: 17,208
streetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to allstreetglower is a name known to all
iTrader: (13)
Quote:
Originally Posted by AggressiveAdam
anything honda recommends multiply it by 1.5 imo


I had my tranny repalced at 40,0000 and am now at 101,000 (km) and my mechanic said i dont need a tranny fluid change, at least I know my mechanics honest, I went to one of those quick lube places, and they told me to drain my tranny fluid 15k after i got the new tranny installed. I told them they should be ashamed of themselves
I would change my fluid every 15k, they werent being dishonest with you. That is probably why you had to replace your tranny because you listened to the mechanic who said you dont need to change your fluid.
streetglower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2004   #9 (permalink)
HyaBoosta
 
HyaBoosta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Miami
Age: 26
Posts: 2,832
HyaBoosta will become famous soon enough
iTrader: (11)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7Gnoob
You don't need the pump... there is a drain at the bottom of the housing that you can remove using only a ratchet (without a socket on it). To fill I used a tube and funnel.
Yeah thats the easy way to go I did it that way and it worked out fine.
HyaBoosta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2004   #10 (permalink)
_Viper_
The Wierdest and Funniest Mofo 7th Gen Has Ever Seen As Voted
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Age: 38
Posts: 7,444
_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of
iTrader: (4)
kool DIY nw someone do one for an Auto tranny
_Viper_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2004   #11 (permalink)
Storm897
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Rockville, Maryland
Posts: 307
Storm897 is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7Gnoob
You don't need the pump... there is a drain at the bottom of the housing that you can remove using only a ratchet (without a socket on it). To fill I used a tube and funnel.
I agree. Theres two bolts in the Transmission Case. Bolt #1 and Bolt #2 in the Picture Below. First take a 3/8 inch socket wrench and remove bolt #2 to remove the MTF (Manual transmission Fluid). Then after the MTF has been removed, screw in bolt #2 to spec and remove bolt #1 (Using a 17mm Socket) to place back MTF back in to the transmission.

Storm897 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2004   #12 (permalink)
djmota
Premium Member
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
 
djmota's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: so cal djmota=oscar
Posts: 3,157
djmota is just really nicedjmota is just really nicedjmota is just really nicedjmota is just really nice
iTrader: (27)
nice pic
djmota is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2004   #13 (permalink)
_Viper_
The Wierdest and Funniest Mofo 7th Gen Has Ever Seen As Voted
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Age: 38
Posts: 7,444
_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of_Viper_ has much to be proud of
iTrader: (4)
Man where does all that mud come from??
Are you using the Vic as a 4X4 lolll
_Viper_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2004   #14 (permalink)
Storm897
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Rockville, Maryland
Posts: 307
Storm897 is an unknown quantity at this point
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Viper_
Man where does all that mud come from??
Are you using the Vic as a 4X4 lolll
There doing contruction in my neighborhood building new homes. Thats where it comes from.

Last edited by Storm897 : 05-20-2008 at 02:12 PM.
Storm897 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2004   #15 (permalink)
Agent9
Senior Member
 
Agent9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: RGV - TX
Age: 28
Posts: 449
Agent9 should not be trusted
iTrader: (1)
Nice DIY
Agent9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

To avoid seeing this ad in our forum please register at CivicForums.com

By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Honda Civic Forum Replies Last Post
Clutchless Transmission nindoo Honda Civic Racing, Street Encounters and Competition Racing 21 10-19-2007 09:41 AM
lagging on oil change improve gas mileage gotrice Honda Civic DIYs and Civic Tech Chat 13 10-09-2004 01:01 AM
2001 Civic LX 5spd MugenRacer Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum 1 06-25-2004 02:51 AM
mtf bluvbebi Honda Civic DIYs and Civic Tech Chat 4 06-30-2003 09:01 PM
Auto to Manual + Engine SWAP???? EricRepinOC South Cali 3 02-12-2003 12:28 PM

  
User Login
Our Partners
used new
Top 10 Threads
Looking for a 7th gen manual for free? (UPDATED!!!)
ALL of Grey's DIY's...
DIY: Trunk Shocks
DIY: tricked out trunk
Oil Changes
DIY: No More Trunk Rattle!
SOHC VTEC Explained
Detailed smoked out taillights DIY w/ pictures
DIY: Grounding kit Install
E-Manage FAQ!!!!!!!!!

Site Supporters


aluminum radiator

Honda car spoilers

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:21 AM.

   
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0
All Content Copyright © 2007 CivicForums.com