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vincenzobar: All the dynos that I have seen for the d17 has shown that I/H/E gets you maybe 10 flywheel hp. So you're saying a cam, gears, and VAFC will net you 40 hp? Hahaha...you must be dreaming.
R3DLIN3: 150lbs does NOT make up for 33hp and 30tq. Need I say more?
Geez, when will you guys understand that the K20A3 IS faster than your d17a2?
And since you predict those mods will net you 180whp, that would put you in the RSX-S range of competition (Taking into account the weight difference). That means you'll probably be running mid 14s to low 15s at the track.
Go do a couple of runs on the track. Just don't be too dissapointed when you don't get what you expect...
I said FLYWHEEL... DAmn dude calm down and read the posts. stop jumping to conclusions so much!!!!
look dude i have been more than reasonable with my assumptions and very calm about it. I have specified time in and time out that i have researched these no.s and that i admit it wasn't a D17. it was a H22 in a lude. Now think in Fly Wheel Horse power (spelled out so there is no mistaking what i am talking about)...
AEM CAI 10 -ISH
DC Header 0-1hp
Thermal R&D 10-ISH
VAFC Damn if you could only feel it - 25-ISH
CAMSHAFT Stage 2 lots more gain to play it safe say 15-ISH
GEAR to adjust timing and all to help get these no.s
so on a properly tuned VAFC with these mods we are looking at about 50 to 70 more hp + 127 hp equals 177 to 197 TO THE FLYWHEEL HORSE POWER.
OF COURSE THIS IS ALL ASSUMPTIONS UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE!!!! I am going to lean more towards 177 though, becuase are engines suck. but hell thats half the fun.
My bad...I meant 180 flywheel hp in my previous post. Either way, I really don't think you'll be getting those numbers. The d17 does NOT get 10hp out of an intake and 15 with a cam. Neither does it get another 10 out of an exhaust, nor 25 out of a VAFC.
Think about it, the K20A2 (type-s) makes about the same power out of the mods that you listed. How can you be sure that your engine will make the same power considering that the K20 is a much better engine anyway.
It just annoys me when people claim to have a faster car when in actuality, it isn't.
Example: Geo metro owner says that the Civic EX is barely any faster than his, and that he'd smoke the civic with I/H/E, S-AFC, cam because that setup gives him 50 horsepower.
10hp from thermal R&D? haha try 2. sorry, but exhaust is worse than headers. since your doing all these other mods. you should be going after that intake manifold too... anyway. VAFC doesn't add 25hp. no way. haha. why would anyone bother with a k20 swap if we could get 25hp out of a VAFC. that's almost the difference between us and base rsx right there. so yea. look at it like this
Intake - 7hp
Header - 2hp
Exhaust - 2hp
VAFC - 10hp (i'm still putting that too high)
Cam - 10hp
pulleys - 4hp
High Flow cat - 6hp
With all of the above, you should be a hair faster than a stock Base RSX.... but if he had an intake. it would be even. that's my estimate. still not bad thou. haha. how much did that cost?
May as well, get a Port and Polish, and Intake manifold. to maximize your breathing mods. then you should have a nice D17... maybe some custom pistons as well. raise the compression a little and add a bit of fuel.
lol, i was trying to be generous. alright. haha. anyway. if it was that easy, i'm sure all of us with I/H/E and VAFC would think we were the shit. but 25hp, where does this come from? hahaha. i thought that VAFC wasn't supposed to add any power, you could just change the engagement point. and if you had a tuned car (IE better breathing, no bottlenecks), you could modify your fuel curves. but even so, your not getting any 25hp....
It's been covered before. You guys had the same discussion about the 2002 Si. Then finally someone had the balls to go out, meet up with an Si and have a race. Correct me if I'm wrong (Just a figure of speech, I know I'm right) but that Si missed a shift and was still able to beat the EX. Since the base RSX and the 02 SI have virtually identical 1/4 mile times, I have no reason to believe a race vs. a base RSX would be any different. EX might have a good chance against the base automatic though.
__________________ 2002 Acura RSX Base 5spd
Custom intake and wider tires
are the only performance mods.
OMFG! all you civics are slow! to that one guy who said he almost took off 2 sec off his 1/4 mile w/ just i/h/e on a d17...LOL...who are you bullshitting? your motor don't make shit power! you guys think you get around 8whp from an intake, and 5whp from exhaust...lol...more like 7whp total tops. i guess no one makes race headers for your shitty engine b/c they don't wanna waste their time. why don't you guys just admit that you guys own the slowest japanese tuner car in the US (prius and echo are not tuner cars).
here's some dynos i hope you guys can try to compete with ...1st one is of the craziest all motor guy on clubrsx vs. stock rsx type-s (graph says flywheel but it is actually whp and lb-ft to the wheels). 2nd is craziest turbo guy on stock internals on 19" volks and 3rd is craziest turbo guy with forged pistons and alum rods.
flywheel - 315hp & 205lb-ft; to the wheels - 265whp & 174lb-ft
flywheel - 365hp & 274lb-ft; to the wheels - 310whp & 232lb-ft (boosting 14psi)
flywheel - 431hp & 315lb-ft; to the wheels - 366whp & 267lb-ft (boosting 20psi)
Originally posted by gibhunter They're talking about the base RSX here. Not the almighty Type-S
i know but still. these civic guys should know their spot in the food chain aka lowest. they think i/h/e will make them as fast as the SI and the base rsx...lol. plz. you don't make up 33hp and 20+lb-ft w/ those bolt on mods esp on the non-worthy d17. don't forget that you guys have less agressive gear ratios. who cares if you guys are 150lbs lighter...that still can't overcome the many obstacles you non si civic guys have to climb over.
Originally posted by n00dleboy Down with rice eh? That's what it says on u're sig..
.. then wth is with that NASTY FUGLY looking spoiler on the RSX?
that's your opinion. i even question my spoiler b/c it's not jdm. however...my headlights are jdm, my rims, and my body kit is the most popular in japan. so just b/c one thing may be questionable doesn't make a car rice. do you even have a cl type-s?
...1st one is of the craziest all motor guy on clubrsx vs. stock rsx type-s (graph says flywheel but it is actually whp and lb-ft to the wheels). 2nd is craziest turbo guy on stock internals on 19" volks and 3rd is craziest turbo guy with forged pistons and alum rods.
