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I allways laugh when people start quoting HP rateing and for get to mention Weight.
SRT-4 Unofficially say 220 HP at the wheels. @ 2,870 lbs
Turboed civic LX Estimated 210 Hp @ 2474 LBs (396 lbs lighter then the SRT-4)
thats
SRT-4: 13.045Lbs Per HP
CIVIC: 11.780lbs Per HP
So with those Numbers I can believe that a turboed lx civic could beat an SRT-4.
you will probably be able to get more out of a SRT-4 with aftermarket parts, but I also believe that that turboed Lx is beating the snot out of Stock SRT-4's
(Weight/HP = Bragging rights)
deal with it.
Civic estimated HP is based off of what I read in this thread actual Hp may Vary, however in order for the Lx to reach the level of the stock SRT-4 it only actually needs 190 HP.
oh ya, for the SRT-4 to reach the Lx, it would need 243.63 Hp.
Have a nice day
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Autocross: Because Life is more fun on three wheels......
"I know Solo only comes one minute at a time, but what an intense, non-stop, fast-forward car control exercise minute it is. Sure, the velocity is higher in road racing, but inside the car it is slow-motion in comparison. In Solo, the turns come like machine-gun rounds. "
Randy Pobst
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Originally posted by Zzyzx I allways laugh when people start quoting HP rateing and for get to mention Weight.
SRT-4 Unofficially say 220 HP at the wheels. @ 2,870 lbs
Turboed civic LX Estimated 210 Hp @ 2474 LBs (396 lbs lighter then the SRT-4)
thats
SRT-4: 13.045Lbs Per HP
CIVIC: 11.780lbs Per HP
So with those Numbers I can believe that a turboed lx civic could beat an SRT-4.
you will probably be able to get more out of a SRT-4 with aftermarket parts, but I also believe that that turboed Lx is beating the snot out of Stock SRT-4's
(Weight/HP = Bragging rights)
deal with it.
Civic estimated HP is based off of what I read in this thread actual Hp may Vary, however in order for the Lx to reach the level of the stock SRT-4 it only actually needs 190 HP.
oh ya, for the SRT-4 to reach the Lx, it would need 243.63 Hp.
Have a nice day
Was this aimed at my post? I was not comparing the SRT-4 numbers to a turbo version of the civic. I was merely trying to clear up the confusion of a bunch of numbers being thrown out for the SRT-4. I was not looking for "bragging rights" and you totally took the post the wrong way. Sit back, and take a chill pill. I'm well aware that weight plays a big factor in performance. I, myself, are big boned!! With that said, I took your numbers and ran them through a calculator just to see what the "perfect race" would look like and here's what I got:
sorry dude, it wasnt aimed at you. just in general. I see it every where. People and auto manufacturers throw around HP like its the end all to what makes a car good. its the same issue with the Si vs the Coupe. stock to stock there is not much difference betwen them, and its only because the Si weighs so much more then the Coupe.
the quote was not ment to go after you personaly, but to shed some light on a Highly Ignored part of a cars performance, Weight.
Autocross: Because Life is more fun on three wheels......
"I know Solo only comes one minute at a time, but what an intense, non-stop, fast-forward car control exercise minute it is. Sure, the velocity is higher in road racing, but inside the car it is slow-motion in comparison. In Solo, the turns come like machine-gun rounds. "
Randy Pobst
Here is my thought. I have two friends that have SRT-4's. One of them did change his BOV on the car. Now a stock SRT-4 has the BOV on the turbo welded, to change that my friend bought a new pipe that led from his intercooler to the turbo. Did not add any HP to the car but did make a much nicer PISSS sound. Here is my conclusion. I have read alot on the SRT-4's. They say they have 215 HP, and they do. Dyno charts have shown they run that to the wheel and sometimes more going as high as 225 from a stock SRT-4. Now if the Turbo civic is pushing 205 HP or around that and the SRT-4 is pushing 215 HP I would think the SRT-4 will win. I'm not even taking into the account that the SRT-4 has much more torque than what the civic may be pushing. I also do know that those cars do not have a great takeoff from 1st gear but pull real hard at 2ed. I think this may have happened and may be true only if the SRT-4 drivers were not great. Even then it is still is hard to believe. Just a suggestion, you need to start to keep a video camera in your car now.
i can most def, see the civic pulling on the SRT if the timing and gearing etc are all at the right time. but pulling in the high end? doesnt the LX top out at 120ish max? the neon goes 140+ to my knowledge. of course im talking about an uncommon race speed, but its just an example.
by high end i meant the highest end our cars can go. As soon as i hit the speed limiter, he blew past me. <-- dont remember where, but i said it before.
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Originally posted by SLAMMED01CIV I find this hard to believe unless it was down a steep hill. lease:
Nope, that's 100% true. We have a guy on our board that is in the Air Force in Germany and he took his SRT-4 to the Autobahn with a GPS unit and that's exactly what he topped out at, 155 mph.
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