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Originally Posted by drjvic04 Automatic tranys
They can be just as fast as manuals. There are mods for auto tranys. I raced my auto trany a lot and people were suprised when Id keep up or pass them. Its not the trany its the driver. |
I don't know what to say. Auto tranny can be fast as stock manuals if modded enough.
Other wise, manual will always spank autos.
Unless we are talking about strict setup bracket race for cars with amazing WHP/WTQ, auto will not out-perform manual. Not yet.
I don't know which car you raced that you kept up with or passed, manual owner definitely didn't downshift or can't shift for sh1t.
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TC 160hp
Civic 110-127hp
Both of these numbers aren't exactly earth shattering. Can a stock civic beat a stock TC yes. Can a purple monkey fly out of my A$$? Yeah!
Its mostly about the drivers. Who ever knows there car better will usually have the advantage.
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They aren't earth shattering as you said.
Can stock civic beat a stock TC? NO.
can a good driver of civic beat a bad driver of TC? yes.
I hate when people talk like "the car" beat the other car.
This is why many ridicules civic owners.
They claim wins(which is totally understandable. bad drivers are out there. alot of them), and they talk like they beat the car, say stuff like "yeah, they aren't impressive at all".
You mean the DRIVER isn't impressive.
At the end, all the other dumb owners believe that their car is capable of beating the Car B(which supposively faster), which is not true, they go out there talk sh1t.
and then, when they get smoked, they claim ridiculous excuses or have that super-surprised look on their face.
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Boosted cars
Cars with lower HP #'s have and continue to beat Higher HP cars, why? Because they get there power to the street faster. Boost a TC boost a Civic they will both be in the same class yet again its about the driver.
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That because some retards bolt-on turbos, make lots of whp/wtq, and don't care about traction/suspension.
Which will not be the case for most "real" tuners with lots of whp/wtq, they will know how to handle it.
higher hp/tq cars will always beat lower hp/tq cars as long as drivers aren't stupid enough.
Boosted TC's 2.4liter will always be faster than boosted civic.
Class? yes, same class. TC just received better performance and bigger motor to begin with.
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D-series engines.
Certainly do not suck. Some people who go all motor and use D-15B,or just the standard D-15 put out mad horsepower. Don't just repeat crap you've heard it doesn't make it true.
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D-series "suck" in terms of performance. and between true performance enthusists.
D-series do not "suck" in terms of economic ability. They pump out enough horses to move around, and gets great MPGs.
However, when we talk performance, obviously D series engine isn't the wisest choice.
There are just better motors out there to choose from.
nobody said D-series can't put out serious numbers.
but with given equal parts, and similar amount of money, you'd be better off with other performance oriented honda motors.
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