Honda Civic Racing: Drift/Drag/AutoX/Time Attack There are different setups needed if you are using your civic for drifting, drag or track racing

ex 5spd vs. rsx base 5spd

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ex 5spd vs. rsx base 5spd

what would win? can a ex civic beat a base rsx becasue of its weight advandtage?
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doubt it...if both stock, ex will die...127 hp, 114 torque isn't good enuf for 200 hp 140 torque, even with a weight advantage.
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but the BASE rsx has only 160hp 140 torque
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rsx would win. if both cars are stock
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It doesn't matter with the weight difference. The rsx base would get it every time. 5 spd ex is no comp sorry to say. It won't even get it if it has i/h/e.
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if it had a turbo it would be a different story
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I think an ex 5speed with i/h/e could beat a base Automatic rsx. (with a decent driver of course).......but I could be wrong
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Originally posted by mad_stylz36
It doesn't matter with the weight difference. The rsx base would get it every time. 5 spd ex is no comp sorry to say. It won't even get it if it has i/h/e.
you underestimate our cars too much in my opinion. 140-145hp vs. 160 would have a decent chance.
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Uhm...last time I checked, I/H/E doesn't add 18hp on the civic.
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How much does the rsx weigh ?
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when it comes out through the flywheel it would. well im just talking my setup. aem intake adds 8.9hp, magnaflow catback and hp header would add around 8 or 9.
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Originally posted by R3DL1N3
when it comes out through the flywheel it would. well im just talking my setup. aem intake adds 8.9hp, magnaflow catback and hp header would add around 8 or 9.
haha no.
intake doesnt do shiet. and it DOESNOT add 8.9hp. along with exhaust and header setup. you will get 5-10 max out of I/H/E on d17
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This is the way I see it. Yeah on an ex you put on an i/h/e you might get about the actual 130 horses at the wheels, and about 115 torque if that. On an rsx you have about 141 horses at the wheels and then about 135 torque. So I still think the ex would need a little more.
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Originally posted by mad_stylz36
This is the way I see it. Yeah on an ex you put on an i/h/e you might get about the actual 130 horses at the wheels, and about 115 torque if that. On an rsx you have about 141 horses at the wheels and then about 135 torque. So I still think the ex would need a little more.
so the 200-300lb weight difference doesnt affect anything, right?

both cars suck. end.
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Originally posted by civicvtec1ps
haha no.
intake doesnt do shiet. and it DOESNOT add 8.9hp. along with exhaust and header setup. you will get 5-10 max out of I/H/E on d17
Well actually if you look at the dynos on the AEM website, they have a 2001-2003 civic with a cold air with a peak gain of 8.9. That was the first thing I checked when I read his post.
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Originally posted by dragoon
so the 200-300lb weight difference doesnt affect anything, right?

both cars suck. end.
When your running with about 11 more horses and 15 - 20 more lbs/ft of torque it doesn't make much difference.
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Originally posted by mad_stylz36
Well actually if you look at the dynos on the AEM website, they have a 2001-2003 civic with a cold air with a peak gain of 8.9. That was the first thing I checked when I read his post.
do you belive it? i dont think so.
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it does make a difference. he gained 15hp top, which would put him at something like 120 at the wheels. vs 140 at the wheels and more torque on the RSX, sorry, he'd pull no problemo.
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Originally posted by dragoon
so the 200-300lb weight difference doesnt affect anything, right?

both cars suck. end.

200-300lbs difference? Try 150 lbs. Come on, your civics aint feathers...
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no matter what the civics gonna lose
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why would AEM post fake dynos? huh? tell me? call em up and ask how about it?
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i remember awhile ago someone posted about the RSX that gained 15 hp from a DAC DC CAI....everyone believed that but they dont believe we can get 8.9 hp out of an AEM?! pfff...you guys are damn crazy. even with dyno chart posting.
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base rsx's are slow in case u didnt notice, be it stick or auto, a civic with i/h/e could definitely pull on that car, i know, cause ive done it, plenty of times, there heavy, thats all there is to it!
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Originally posted by SaiyanMatador
base rsx's are slow in case u didnt notice, be it stick or auto, a civic with i/h/e could definitely pull on that car, i know, cause ive done it, plenty of times, there heavy, thats all there is to it!
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Hahaha. They're slow because they're heavier by 150 lbs?

What's next? Soon you're gonna be telling me that you beat focus svts, mustangs, and 350zs
just because they're "heavy as hell" and your civic is a lightweight, nimble, acceleration monster.

Why do so many members here claim that the 7thgen is faster then the 6th gen, when in fact, horsepower output is the same and the 6th gen is lighter? From what I've heard, the 6th gen even responds better to mods.

Plus I've yet to see any member here post a dyno of your cars with I/H/E gaining more than 6whp, so please don't bull$hit yourself...
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haha i started this post as a test becasue i just wanted to see if people get the impression that the rsx is fast or not. since it is just as fast as the EP civic si. From reading a prior post most members of this site thought that they could beat an si, so i wanted to see if the rsx's appereance changed their opinions.
i'd also like to extended a challenge to any one in the seattle area with a 7th gen civic who wants to challenge a civic si, or a base rsx because RSXTC has a base rsx and i have an si and we'll settled this argument once and for all vs a natuarly aspirated d17

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why would AEM post fake dynos? huh? tell me? call em up and ask how about it?
haha this post is hella stupid. why would they post fake dyno's huh? huh? marketing!!! so idots like you will belive them and buy they're intakes

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Originally posted by akiboy7
haha this post is hella stupid. why would they post fake dyno's huh? huh? marketing!!! so idots like you will belive them and buy they're intakes
well have you ever tested it? i honestly doubt it. pay for the dyno and ill go test mine right now. and as far as the 7thgen vs 6thgen. our cars have 7 lbs. more torque than they do so thats something to remember.
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sorry but i still stand by my opinion on the ex 5spd won't beat a rsx or a civic si, even with i/h/e. You never know it might be close but i doubt that still.
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the 7lbs of torque your 7gen has over the 6gen aint gonna do shiet...
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the 7lbs of torque your 7gen has over the 6gen aint gonna do shiet...
exactly the 6th gen respnds way better to mods espescially intake the most obvious reason being that the trottle body of the 7th gen.faces upwards meaing the intake has to make a 90 degree bend.
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