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Question Is 7th gen civic faster than 6th gen civics?

Are 01+ civics faster and handle better than 96-00 civics? EX wise I guess.
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its faster stock to stock for sure...
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Originally Posted by c kim
Are 01+ civics faster and handle better than 96-00 civics? EX wise I guess.

for handling 96-00 >> 01+, two reasons, 1. Double wish bone suspension and 2. about 250 lbs lighter.

As for speed, I'm going to say there is little differecne for stock wise.
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Originally Posted by z00mX
its faster stock to stock for sure...
Maybe a little, but we are only comparing EX's here. Si's are a different story.
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The 7th gen civic is faster in every trim line than the 6th gen civic.

Except in the case of the Si. The 6th gen Si is faster than the 7th gen Si.

As for handling, I think that yes, the 6th gen civic generally does better in auto-x than the 7th gen. zzyzx could give you a definite answer on that though.
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yea, id like to know to, cause my friend has a 99ex and i got a 03ex. Would be nice to know in a unbias opinion of which is truly better at what, just gotta wait for zzyzx to come in
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They are very similar hp wise. Although after some mods, the 7thgen will fall behind.
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would a 94 lx with i/e beat my 01 lx with i/e?
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or what about a 6th gen ex all stock? will i be able to take that? oh yeah and all these cars are 5 speed
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I would say no because the car is old and has prolly lost hp over time (unless you're really good about maintenance.
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the only way to find out is... to go out there and pick on some 6th gens =D
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Originally Posted by ati9700pro
yea, id like to know to, cause my friend has a 99ex and i got a 03ex. Would be nice to know in a unbias opinion of which is truly better at what, just gotta wait for zzyzx to come in
i have an '03 EX sedan, but i'm not biased by any means...my roommate has a 2000 EX coupe, and we race just about every day on the 15 mile drive heading home from work, and the only department his car comes out on top in is braking...so i say you should be good to go kick some 6th gen a$$...good luck...
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7th gen got slightly bigger injectors but then again aftermarket turbos are made for 6th gen. For Instance, we want a greddy turbo kit but greddy only makes one for the 6th gen which sucks *****.
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Ya basically no company has developed any kind of turbo/sc for our engines. They think it's not worth the trouble.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Ya basically no company has developed any kind of turbo/sc for our engines. They think it's not worth the trouble.
i'm sure if a GReddy/etc. company rep took a few minutes to hit these forums he would find 23,330 members who would beg to differ...
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tru but out of 23,330 how many of us hae the money to buy one? and will that be enough for them to make it? and will the gains be worth it?
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Look how many members have turbo? And alot of others that aren't on these boards. Every car company is coming out with some sort of tuner addon car except honda. And those companies should know that civic is one of the most modded cars out there. They made turbos for the other models so why not ours? Maybe once the new models come out
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Originally Posted by gearbox
...Every car company is coming out with some sort of tuner addon car except honda...They made turbos for the other models so why not ours?
exactly...there are turbo setups for some retarded cars (1954-1979 Volkswagen Beetle, for example...), but not for one of the most popular tuner cars in the world?...that sucks much...
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They say rigidity has been increased in the 7thgen. Does that make a handling diff?

Why is the 7th gen EX faster than the 6th gen EX. They have the same HP. Do we loose less to the wheel? (stock vs stock) Does it have to do with gearing?

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we look a lot faster....
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Originally Posted by gearbox
I would say no because the car is old and has prolly lost hp over time (unless you're really good about maintenance.
My mechanic told me (so I don't know exactly how true it, but does kinda make since) that most Hondas as they get older, get some carbon dewposits on the heads, mostly if they are driven slow all the time and the carbon is not blow out. Anyway this small amount of carbon in the piston heads can actually raise compression a little and give you more power. He siad he has seen as much as 1/4 of an inch of deposite on the heads of some Hondas, then he shrugged and said, then soem young kid gets the car, revs it up and blows the head gasket because of the higher compression. Don't know how true it is, but makes a good story either way.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
The 7th gen civic is faster in every trim line than the 6th gen civic.

Except in the case of the Si. The 6th gen Si is faster than the 7th gen Si.

As for handling, I think that yes, the 6th gen civic generally does better in auto-x than the 7th gen. zzyzx could give you a definite answer on that though.
not true about the si, my dad has a 7th gen si and i have raced 3 6th gens with it and stayed dead even i mean not a inch diffrence with all but one which had i/h/e which pulled about a car on me
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My friends have a 96 w/sri and 98 EX manual w/cai. I have a 01 civic manual LX. They are just slightly faster. Their drivers side window is like 1 or 2 feet ahead of mine until about 70 or 80. Not much of any difference at all. We are all good shifters as well. I have beaten Base RSX's in my basically stock LX. Id say its all up to the driver, and if 2 drivers of the same skill are driving, and the older EX is slightly modified, it would win by a couple hairs.
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
My mechanic told me (so I don't know exactly how true it, but does kinda make since) that most Hondas as they get older, get some carbon dewposits on the heads, mostly if they are driven slow all the time and the carbon is not blow out. Anyway this small amount of carbon in the piston heads can actually raise compression a little and give you more power. He siad he has seen as much as 1/4 of an inch of deposite on the heads of some Hondas, then he shrugged and said, then soem young kid gets the car, revs it up and blows the head gasket because of the higher compression. Don't know how true it is, but makes a good story either way.
you wont really gain more power from the carbon deposits. what it WILL do, however, is unseat the piston rings if enough of it builds up. carbon build up is bad in every sense of the meaning.
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Originally Posted by btuner
not true about the si, my dad has a 7th gen si and i have raced 3 6th gens with it and stayed dead even i mean not a inch diffrence with all but one which had i/h/e which pulled about a car on me

Porbably cause of the gearing.
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isnt this 7thgen VS 6thgen thread a repost, and hasnt this 7thgen/6thgen battle been going on for a while??
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Originally Posted by gearbox
They are very similar hp wise. Although after some mods, the 7thgen will fall behind.
based mostly on aftermarket parts availability, IMO.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
you wont really gain more power from the carbon deposits. what it WILL do, however, is unseat the piston rings if enough of it builds up. carbon build up is bad in every sense of the meaning.
Yeah, like I siad, a greasy mechanic said it, I don't really believe it my self. I think when I was talking to him we on the subject of how my '94 civic DX was faster than my '03 civic EX stock for stock, but I say it was the fact that there was over 300lb difference and the DX back then had nothing but an alternator on the motor (todays DX has power steering too).


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