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So I went up to Jeff Evans yesterday to get a retune on the new motor and find out what the stage 3 could actually do. Turns out the stage 3 is just too big of a cam there is not enough static compression to support it basically it needs either high comp pistons or boost to support the cam. It runs ridiculously smooth though. And I'm getting like 40 miles to the gallon on this new tune.
If I get a warm streak one weekend I will pop the stage 2 back in to see how it does the last time I had the stage 2 in it supposedly did 144 (i did see one chart on the computer that said 127 hp w/ matching torque) on a messed up map and shitty leaky exhaust and no intake mani. the stage 2 with the setup that I have I should break 150 without too much trouble.
the Intake side and the exhaust side breathe perfectly and there is no restrictions at those two points but the wall comes down on the cam and pistons.
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Could you post your full build list in here (intake, exhaust, motor, trans).
Glad to see you got a run in on the dyno and got some solid numbers to look at.
I have a few questions:
Is this regular or premium fuel?
What were the conditions of the dyno- temp/humidity?
Thats pretty amazing if your getting 40mpg. Is that all highway in optimial conditions (no electrics-sub,fogs; and no defroster)?
JDM Fabtech Intake Mani
Crower Stage 3 Cam
Crower Valve Springs
DC Sports 4-2-1 Full Race Header
ARP rod bolts
Morso Oil Accumulator
K-Pro w/ cam gear
I'm running 93 octane but that is because of my ignition timing. I could run regular with out a real problem cause it's still stock compression.
It was dry and cold out in the shop though it was probably like 70 degrees? I don't know it was roasting hot so I wasn't loosing any real power.
the 40 is on the highway with the stero cranked lol i'm running like 17.4 17.6 air to fuel ratio when cruising and when I step on it it drops to like 13.1
In the city is like 35-36 if I am pushing it all the way it will drop to 28
Whoa that mileage is crazy...those are some high afr's. I'm sure they're safe with stock mileage...and nice tune by the way, I keep seeing/hear nothing but good from Jeff. If I ever get my tune refreshed, I think I'll be going to him.
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1997 Integra, Built N/A B18C1, 11.6:1 CR, tuned on a Hondata S200/ P28
2001 Civic EX, Ksports, Magnaflow Exh., SRI, SS - SOLD
Whoa that mileage is crazy...those are some high afr's. I'm sure they're safe with stock mileage...and nice tune by the way, I keep seeing/hear nothing but good from Jeff. If I ever get my tune refreshed, I think I'll be going to him.
Thanks! yeah everything good you hear about jeff is probably true lol He is magical with tuning definitely best tuner I have ever come across he knows his stuff. Andyman97's car before he started parting out was getting the same mileage as long as he wasn't in full boost. Jeff is definitely worth it for retune it was $150 an hour it only took him one hour with me he made the car smoother gained like 8 to 10 hp and tq over the whole entire power band and got me better gas mileage. Most places will charge you 80 to 120 just to get pulls on a dyno to see were your at and any part that is going toget you 8 to 10 extra hp is probably going to cost over 150 so to me it is worth every penny and he is saving me lots of money on gas.
Sup man, glad you got everything running good again. You make me want to drop in a cam again. Stock cam sucks after having the stage 2 but its nice have a smooth idle again. Maybe ill get a stage 1 and call it a day.
why not put the high comp pistons in there and see what kinda of power you can really make?
I will eventually I have an engine on a stand waiting for some high comp pistons and new bearings for it but money is a little tight right the moment, first gear in my trans has a mind of it's own (so I might have to do something about that), and I have another project a very big project that I am working on for the vic right the moment.
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Originally Posted by ronaldo9
Sup man, glad you got everything running good again. You make me want to drop in a cam again. Stock cam sucks after having the stage 2 but its nice have a smooth idle again. Maybe ill get a stage 1 and call it a day.
thanks man my idle is soo smooth the car feels like stock k-pro man thats where it's at.
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Originally Posted by filipinop1405
paul nice bro! glad that you got everything going again!
Yeah man thanks sorry I couldn't really help you out on that block but as you can see I am going to need it in the future.lol and if your back up in the area again hit me up.
The quote I got from Gary of JDM Fabtech was 1000$. Keep in mind that these are made to order so there will be some downtime waiting for it. Well worth it though.
Sup man, glad you got everything running good again. You make me want to drop in a cam again. Stock cam sucks after having the stage 2 but its nice have a smooth idle again. Maybe ill get a stage 1 and call it a day.
I got a brand new stage 2 in box. I think I'm going to go with a stage 3 instead. Get at me if you'r looking for a stage2.
I know right
