[7thgen.nick]

Yeah i was hoping for more power at lower rpms and also not having to be under high boost. Ill be getting a p&p, titanium retainers and valves, and possibly forged pistons way later dwn the road, theill worre more about uper power. Just lookin for some xtra umfh.. lol. getting tired of beeing beat by buicks with 5 rednecks in it with fishing poles hangn out the windows coming home from work.

Im thinkin about usng the apexi boost contrller so i dont have to run alot o boost all the time. I drve 45min to work and 45 min back everyday, and being i hve 150kmiles on my engine already, i was weary as it was.. but i think itll be ok. Soif i change my 5.8psi tal bar to something like a 1psior 2psi, i can just ajust theboost as needed with th controller rght? or can you not go that low at all? Im assuming also i have to cange fuel and ignitionmapson the emaage as well, using lower or higher boost. that would be nice if it just knew... haha

[sql_civic]

Well I've never busted a rod but the general consensus is that 200HP is the approximate limit for Civic internals (rods). My guess is that you already know this. Some builders may get more if they have a good tune. So I'm not sure where 9lbs of boost will net your build out HP and TQ wise Clint but my guess is that you'll be somewhere around that number. My winter build is a 78mm bored out D16Y8 stroked with a D17 crank. Later I'll add a blower at around 8lbs of boost. I expect this to net me somewhere around 200 HP as well but with a lot of low end torque and my build will include the maxi-lite Crower D17 rods. At first I thought I would be ok with stock rods but then after gutting a D17 block and seeing how thin the rods are, it got me kind of concerned - so I'll be sacrificing a few steak dinners for PB&J to save up the bucks for the Crowers. Just curious what your thoughts are with using stock internals on your build.

PS - What was all that reference to the Clampetts awhile back? The '62 Chevy was a new car when my Mom drove it. It had chrome trim, grill, and bumpers and no seat belts (didn't come with them). No power brakes either. Maybe that's why they called them muscle cars cause it really built up the guns.

[7thgen.nick]

I as well, want to do new pistons and rods. Ill have to have it done, as im sure i do not have the right tools/knowledge to do it myself. Does the entire block have to be removed to do that kind of work? im thinking i should get it done the same time i get my port and polish/titanium valve set done.... any thoughts on the whole process?

[dopes6070]

ya the engine needs to come out of the car for machining

[MURDOCK]

^^^what he said.

[MURDOCK]

Yes allow me to field that question about the Clampett remark if you will.

In all actuality I am a rather big fan of old American muscle. My dad use to own a 66 Mustang with a 289 that thing used to have a hatch near the floor panel that could be opened to allow fresh air into the cabin I guess that was the A/C also no fm radio and brakes that needed like 200lb ft of leg pressure to bring the car to a stop.
Currently I have a 79 Wide track Cherokee I think the wheelbase is a 109 anyway I finished the restoration on that about 2 years ago it has a 5.9L V8 AMC 360 bored .60 over with a lot of High performance parts.
NO radio NO A/C pretty Clampett huh lol.

[FoSho]

Damn foos has been busy....
It is amazing what boost can do....I'm running 6.5-7psi of boost right now and you can tell a night & day difference when I was @ 9 PSI. It made almost a 20WHP difference. You will for sure feel a difference with it @ 9!
It's a shame though I'm getting bored with the power......it's still slow. A bit quicker but nothing I'm proud of yet....Maybe a low 14, high 13 second pass.. we'll see.
Seein you do the headgasket has modivated me now, mine hopefully goes on next month with some more funds $$$
My boost problem is still present. You mash it and sometimes you build boost and you hear that turbo roar. Sometimes you hit it and all you hear is the turbo screaming and you just wait & look around like wtf?!?!?
I had all the intercooler piping redone aswell so I'm lost

Oh, and just to add to my turbo problems. The car has been pulling hard, I mean hard to the right under any kind of acceleration. Yes, I do understand torque steer. However, I know I don't have enough power to break the tires in 3rd,4th, or 5th.
I put my car on lift at work on friday & moved my wheels from lock to lock to discover a very loose & noisy power steering rack. Inner & outer rods are good but when you go from stop to stop it goes **CLUNK, CLUNK**
That means it's gonna fuck my brand you Nitto's and my alignment wasn't neccessary! wooho!!

Aren't cars fun!!

[sql_civic]

Very cool Murdock. Congrats on that restoration (little jealous here). Yup, I remember those air vents. I had a girlfriend back in the 70's who had 2 yes TWO 68 Mustang convertibles. They were in half decent shape. They had not yet become a classic they were just 12 year old cars that she got for about $100 EACH!

[speedfoos]

Drive-by vids and all that will be coming soon enough. Mon-Wed is busy for me after work because of soccer practice and games to coach.

Not sure how the car is going to react to the PnP head I have sitting here. I'm honestly a little leary about strapping it on the car without having access to a local tuner and dyno. This email tuning thing is working, but the inherent delays would be a PITA with the PnP head I think. Here's the thing with the boost controller though. You don't fuck with the timing at all on our cars for that level of boost. Plus, if you are tuned for 5.5 psi and want to ratchet it down to 1 psi, then you're fine. The EMS will dump fuel according to the intersection of engine load and RPMs with boost level factored in as well. If it's not reading 5.5 psi of boost it's not going to dump gobs of fuel.

I hear you about the internals Carl. They're on my list, but machine work is expensive over here. For daily driving, I will probably stick right around 7 psi and run 9 psi on the occasional track day. A bulletproof gut will have to wait until I get back to the states, although I might take another assignment to Germany. Momma and I have some discussin' to do about that.... Either way, I'm buying new rods, pistons, and assorted stuff when I get back from my deployment in March.

Ouch FoSho, You and your car have some issues to take care of. Could your intercooler be leaking? Something dumb, but what the TB? Is it tightened down? You have to be losing pressure somewhere. What about the BOV seal?



P.S. Carl. And I thought I was old being born in '76..........

[7thgen.nick]

what psi spring you usin clint? what ems?

ima have a 5.8 in my tial, so im not goign to be able to get any lower than that, but im going to change that for my daily highway driving i have to do. Whats the lowest you can go? Im using emanage blue, so im asuming itll do all the adjusting when i change the boost on my apexi controller

[speedfoos]

Yes actually you will be able to, which is contrary to what I originally thought. I've got the .5 BAR (7.252 psi) spring in mine and my boost controller is ratcheting it down to 5.5 psi. So your Apexi controller should allow you to do the very same thing.

I'm using the PCS-XFC for engine management. Great little piggyback IMO!

[02BLKCIVIC]

lol yes your old if you were born in 76...

[speedfoos]

Very true Don. But this:

Originally Posted by sql_civic

I had a girlfriend back in the 70's who had 2 yes TWO 68 Mustang convertibles.

means Carl is really old.

[02BLKCIVIC]

lol yah really...

[MURDOCK]

Hey Clint I was born in 76 also and little do these "young guys" know 31 is just around the corner for them