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Page 210 = The New Project!! -The Speedfoos' 383 Stroker thread!!

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The Saga of 'Foos and a GT3071 Turbo

Install Day 0.5 - Mickey Pod Install

Install Day 0.5a - Exhaust Parts Arrive

Install Day 1 - Fight the A/C and UKDM Tail install

Install Day 2 - The Padded Bra

Install Day 3 - Don't Get Your Hopes Up

Install Day 4 - It Makes a Grinding Noise

Install Day 5 - Black is for Stealth

Install Day 6 - It's Better than a Breast Pump

Install Day 7 - Matt Cries During City of Angels

Install Day 8 - Mom Made Me Pick up My Toys

Not an Install Day but A Sneak Peek into the Life of 'Foos

Install Day 9 Pre-update - Vac and Catchcan Diagrams, plus DIY Catchcan Improvement!

Install Day 9 - Catchcans and Vac Manifold

Install Day 10 - A/C is for Suckas

Install Day 11 - The Car Goes on a Diet

Install Day 12 - I Have a Pretty Ass

Install Day 13 - I Thought I Was Done

Threadjack #1 - Edwin Has Stuff Other People Want

Install Day 14 - My Keyboard is Weak

Install Day 14.5 - It's Spelled B-L-I-N-G

Install Day 14.75 - Zee Basemap is Uploaded

Threadjack #2 - FoSho Has Blue......Jethot Coating on His Manifold

Install Day 14.80 - Heheh. Nipples.

Threadjack #3 - FoSho has Pan Issues

Vanity Day #1 - The NASA Recall

Tribute to Fivehead

Threadjack #4 - Edwin is a Sucka (See Install Day 10 Title)

Install Day 14.82 - I'll Have a Side of Sidemarker

Install Day 15 - Just Because it Looks Good, Doesn't Mean it Is

Install Day 16 - Catchy Title

Start-up Vids 1-3 - Runs Like Doo-Doo

Start-up Vid #4 - The Continuing Diarrhea Car

Post Start-up Troubleshooting #1 - One Little Wire

Post Start-up Troubleshooting #2 - Of Socks and Brains

Post Start-up Troubleshooting #3 - Who Shaved George Clinton?

Post Start-up Troubleshooting #4 - Could it Be.....

Post Start-up Troubleshooting #5 - Aw Yeah Bitches!!

Post Install Clean Up Day #1 - Matt Thinks my Sister is Cute

Post Install Clean Up Day #2 - Boy Was Matt Wrong!!

Post Install Clean Up Day #3 - My Garage Has Postpartum Depression












Boosted Day #1 - And on the 52nd Day, 'Foos Created Boost.

Boosted Day #5 - A Case of the Fuckits

Fixing the Blown HG Day #1 - But I Didn't Eat Corn...

Fixing the Blown HG Day #2 - It Burns When I Pee...

Back on the Road Day #1 - Boosted at 6 psi!!

Threadjack #5 - Warren's Donk Rims Shred his Drivetrain

RWYB at Santa Pod - Foos' First Time on the Drag Strip!!

Construction of the new DP - Steel Tubing to Sooth a Broken Heart

Who likes "cats" and has Two Thumbs? - Dis Guy

STOP!! In the name of Love! - Before Brembo Brakes my Heart

Hey Foos! - Make me a Sammich!

104 Pages of Nonsense - The exhaust and oil return are fixed

Threadjack #6 - Edwin Done Broke his Thingee

Threadjack #6.5 - Edwin's New Lease on Life!

Foosjack #Doesn't matter, it's my thread - The Score is Foos: 1, GM: 0

My Head is All Scratchy - Time to Lube it Up!

Threadjack #7 - Ching Likes Head Too

Video Killed the Radio Star - Foos Takes the Fam for a Ride Video

It's Never Too Cold for Head - Why Am I up on Jackstands Again?

Twas the Night Before Christmas - And Santa's Sleigh had a Lopey Idle.

The Sound of an ASCII Turbo - First 6 psi Boost Run with the new cam

Bloody Leak Gremlin - Where is the Oil Coming From??!

I Hacked the Site and some Pipe - Making the New Exhaust

What's This "Reliability" You Speak of? - The Leak Gremlin is Back

It's Dyno Day! - Woohoo! 261.9whp on 8.5psi!!!!

It's Busted Main Bearing Day! - Woohoo! Deadlined Car FTMFW!!

It's Fixed Main Bearing Day! - But It's Still Squealing!

The Rebirth of Foos - Time to Rebuild the Engine

Bottom End is Installed - No One Reads this Shit Anymore Anyway

Motor is Back in - 165 pages, good God.

First Startup after the Rebuild - And it Lives!

You are Very Deer to Me - It Begins Again


Back to your regularly scheduled thread.


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Crap. Today is not a good day. If I had one, I would use my AK.

Mocked up the turbo mani and bits this morning. Things don't fit as well as I think they should. Going to have to cut about 4 inches out of the exhaust and weld a flange back on. This probably going to be a bitch with that double walled downpipe isn't it? I might be better off just going completely custom with a new Random or Magnaflow cat. Still thinking about that. Its the least of my issues.

So the WG does not clear my aftermarket hood. I have two configurations to put it in and both require "hood modifications". Wee. So I need some opinions. The way I see it I have four options.

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I went with Option 1 and you can see the results on Day 14 of the install (Pg 19)

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Option 1 - Horizontal mount WG

Pros - Provides a better place to hack into the hood from a symmetry standpoint. Less glassing involved . Should only result in asymmetrical wart on the hood. Clears AC.

Cons - Have to cut radiator support in half and get creative to reconnect it.






Option 2 - Vertical mount WG

Pros - Don't have to cut radiator support. Clears AC.

Cons - Serious glass work involved here. Symmetry of hood concavity has to have a lot of consideration. Asymmetrical "wart" would not look good in on the hood with this wastegate placement. Have to reglass the whole area.








Option 3 - Buy new hood


Pros - Don't have to fuck with anything except paint.

Cons - Expensive. Really expensive, especially shipping to the UK. Hard to find one with the correct fitment for my specific WG placement

Option 4 - Buy new mani and make new downpipe and dumptube.

Pros - Don't have to fuck with anything except re-wrapping the mani and DP. All I do is write a check.

Cons - Very expensive and easy way out.

So that's where I'm at folks. Needless to say I'm a little irritated this morning, but its part of the turbo gig. Nothing ever goes right. Let me know what you think about the options I've listed out here. Wee.
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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

enie meanie miny moe, ...shoulda gone NA yo!

Looks like fun though. It wouldnt be any fun if everything went smoothly.
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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

And I haven't even tried installing everything yet.

There's a lesson to be learned here folks. If you buy a kit, you don't have to go through all this crap.

Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying working on the car, but damn it, I want boost already!
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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

Steve at racecoated.com hooked me up. Which option do you think I should go with?
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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

i say option 4, u can always sell the dumptube and downpipe here, someone will pay for a well wrapped dt and dp, just relocate it and be done, god if i was u id be so sick of waiting and waiting to get this done, uve been working on it for so long
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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

Screw option 4. I would have buy a new mani ($500), get new flanges, O2 bungs and piping for the DP and DT ($100-150) and then pay for welding all over again. ($300). So I'd be another $1K into this thing and still not be able to go over 5 psi. I know I put it as an option, but it really isn't when you consider the cost. Plus I bit myself in the ass by making this thread. Anyone else who would have bought this would have run into the same problem.

But I'm impatient and this time zone thing is killing me. I've decided on Option 1. I don't think I'll have to get into the top side of the hood at all. I've cut radiator support and it looks like I'll be pretty much OK. I will have to cut out some of the underside of the hood, but only about 3" x 3" square. I'll reinforce that will new fiberglass. Here are some pics. I still have to clean up the grind job I did, but its going to work. Now to sort out the exhaust....






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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

doesnt look too bad, ur braver than i, core support cutting.... wow, foos ur a brave guy, good luck with the exhaust. didnt know all of that cost u so much money, id probably have quit by now, but thats the price u pay to booost, congrats on solving ur problem...
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i was gonna suggest hood spacers it would only provide function as it pulls the hot air out of the enginebay.. i did it to mine to make my strut bar properly fit.
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If it was in the back, then hood spacers would be an idea, however with the WG being in front like that, there's a much better chance of air catching it and popping the hood up.

I'm not too worried about the core support bit. I'm going to reinforce it later when I get the exhaust welded up. You see those cross members cut all the time. Its still connected and will be MIG'd up soon for more support.
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lol u couldn't wait 4 hours for people to reply? hehehe, just joking. Looks like everything is solved
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hrmm...no hood! idk.. thats a predicament.. good luck on it!
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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

Yeah Travis, I'm a little impatient when I comes to wrenching around on my car!

Hopefully I don't run into any problems when I start cutting on the hood. I'll start that Tuesday since my wife is going to Rome for a week and I can deadline the car while I get the exhaust and clearance issue taken care of.

Woohoo! Rep's working again. Although I just gave out all I could for the next 24 hours.
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Re: Gotta cut the hood. Give me some opinions.

i was going to say option 1 anyway... sorry i got here so late. do u think the wastegate my clunk on the radiator support thing? like i guess when ur pulling wont the engine move back alittle and when u let off the throttle itll just clunk forward? or is that just me thinking paranoid.
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Yeah, thats true. I dyno'd my car yesterday and the engine was just sloshing around in there. Really makes me want to dump the money into a torque damper. heads up foos.
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