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Hmm....when I loaded my map through file -> open, that one is grayed out. When I go to file -> new, to create a new map, that one is not grayed out.

I think I may rebuild the map on a new configuration and see what happens. Basically making a duplicate but starting from scratch.
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Sorry, the complete motor build and turbo setup (kpro, IM, turbo goodies, return setup, clutch, etc...) puts me right around 10 large. Considering there are 3 goodies on there that cost over $1000 each, plus everything else (rods, pistons, rings, bearings, another cam, etc), it adds up quickly.
That makes a lot more sense. I am thinking 10K into the motor build. He's gotta have Ti rods and shit. LOL
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Naw man, just Crowers and Wisecos.
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Glad to see this thread still alive and kicking...
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going back to the topic. the box is greyed out because you loaded a pre-existing map. instead of loading the map through FILE>NEW, you load it from FILE>OPEN. for some reason when you load an existing calibration, some options dont show up, or cant be changed. boilermaker and i figured this out a while back.
Ahhh hah I think edwin just solved your problem cause I don't remember that being greyed out on andy's old map. I was starting to wonder late last night if andy accidentally sent you the map for when we tried to wire in the stock honda wideband o2 sensor into andy's car.
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Once I finish up the map, I'm going to email it to you Paul. Have a look at it if you could please. I'm going to set the timing on it to stock for right now just for troubleshooting and I'll set it to Jeff's values once I get things ironed out. The only thing I'm thinking is that little box isn't going to make a difference since I'm running in open loop anyway. It's worth a shot though.
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Good Luck Clint, wish I could help you like you have helped me...But im not the brightest so that is not happening.
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Once I finish up the map, I'm going to email it to you Paul. Have a look at it if you could please. I'm going to set the timing on it to stock for right now just for troubleshooting and I'll set it to Jeff's values once I get things ironed out. The only thing I'm thinking is that little box isn't going to make a difference since I'm running in open loop anyway. It's worth a shot though.
Cool sounds good I will definitely take a look at it.

That little box can make a surprising difference though. When i took my car in to tempest to have them tune it they could not get it to run right at all I told them to check the box which they never did. When I got it back from them They told me it would run like shit for 1 to 5 min's until it threw a cel and then it would run fine. I put up with this for about a week and then I pulled my map off my own k-pro cause they never gave me a copy and found that they never checked the box. I checked the box and the problem went away completely never had it again. The whole narrow band calibration is so screwed up some times
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Paul, shoot me an email. civic_gt3071r@yahoo.com. I can't find yours.
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Okay I looked over it first thing is the first map you sent me the one andy sent you is a PRB map which should not work with your setup. you should be running a PRA map

I don't know why andy sent you this map it looks like one of the ones that we tried to use for o2 sensor rewiring so I think that may be your problem.

run the second map that you sent me(the one that you created) but make sure you relocate those to wires that hondata says to move.

If I were you I would not even worry about repining them cause those pins are such a pain in the ass to get out. I went back a couple inches from the connector and just cut and spliced the wires on my car.

from everything that you have told me I can definitely rule out that it is
1. Not a mechanical issue with turbo or engine
2. Not a vacuum leak issue
3. It's not a fuel issue

that being said it does sound like it is either the fact that you are trying to run a PRB map. which would make since cause if you made changes to the map you would see changes to the way it runs but it does not actually have the wide band to acurately read off of so it would be all over the place and run like poo.

or my next guess would be a map sensor issue (I assume you are running the AEM map sensor),
tps sensor(just doesn't sound like a tps issue),
IAT sensor(I saw something about a gm sensor? whats that about? curios) or cam and crank(I don't think it is your cam and crank sensor, I have had to deal with that before and the engine runs a lot different then you describe when the cam and crank sensor screw up)

I will continue to look at both maps to see If anything else pops out at me.

Oh on a side note I am not living in DC anymore I have moved down to Richmond. I don't know if your going to be at home working on the car this weekend but If you want or need help I can come down and help out if you want since I am not doing anything this weekend and the girlfriend is busy with her family.

I'm going to pm you my # just case you need it for help or whatever.
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Awesome man. I'll hit this with some more comments at lunch. I'm running late for work.
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OK, so I'm now running a PRA map with the one I reworked. Not sure how I selected a PRA map to use this time, but if it works then good. I wonder how Andy was able to get it to work when he ran it though since I'm using his old kpro as well.

Check on the re-wire. What I'm thinking though is my kpro will not be using the wideband to make corrections either, since it's just running open loop. I'll swap cam sensors tomorrow as well just to check them.

In ref to my IAT sensor, the GM open air sensor runs the same parameters as the Honda sensor so its good. The good thing about it is that it screws in to an NPT bung I welded to my IC piping.

In ref to coming down this weekend, I appreciate it, but it won't be worth the four-hour drive for you since I will have most of these tweaks wrapped by 0900 tomorrow morning. I will definitely make use of you phone number though!

I appreciate this Paul.
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