Page 210 = The New Project!! -The Speedfoos' 383 Stroker thread!!

[speedfoos]

Not me!! Merry Christmas everyone!!!

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[DsevenEm2]

yea its a good thing there aint too much pressure in those lines.. i wouldnt have thought there would be too much.. hydraulic steering IS AWESOME tho... you can let go of the wheel at 66 mph for about 5 mins without it moving a foot from left to right.. just a straight even shoot even in choppy water

another cool story:
i put a console on fire today in class... :doh: connecting a positive to ground on the tach caused the ignition switch wire to detonate everything... next thing i know i see a nice glowing red wire and a couple SNAPS and smoke EVVVERRYYWHEREE... its ok... mistakes happen so i can do better next time.. so 2morow we will see..

sorry for the threadjack foos.. any updates??

[speedfoos]

Bleh. Stayed home sick from work today. More to not infect others than not be able sit behind a computer all day. Once my meds kick in I'm going out to buy the parts I need and fix this damn thing. Patience level is really low though (my head is killing me), so hopefully I don't break anything else.

[LogicWavelength]

I'm hoping that your headgasket problems don't have to do with Chris' tuning abilities... because as soon as I can get the money together I'm going to do the tune-by-email that you did Clint. BTW... my oil return line is leaking. It was a POS Ghetto-Booty-Job that came with the kit I bought used. It's a steel braided line with an anodized, threaded aluminum fitting on the turbo side and hack-sawwed off on the pan side. It just slides over a barbed fitting and then I clamped it.

My problem is I have no idea what size it is and it's leaking out of the aluminum fitting because it was missing a ring from the beginning and I'm an idiot for putting it in there.

[TIPPMANN]

Until they can fix my account I am using this one.

[speedfoos]

Ben, post some pics of your oil return line and fittings and I may be able to eyeball a size for you. Hopefully mine doesn't leak (it didn't before) with my new setup, but I'll get to that in a second.

The thing about Chris and tuning via email. Chris is a good tuner, knows a lot about turbo'd Hondas, seems to be very honest, and will take the time to get your problems fixed when you call him up. Plain and simple though - and he and I have joked about this - he absolutely sucks at email. So, that being said, just follow up your emails to him with a phone call and you'll be fine. I'm 99% sure my HG issues have nothing to do with his tuning. I'll continue to recommend him to folks even though I haven't been able to get an email from him in 3 weeks. But then again, I haven't called him either. I'm not going to worry about it until I'm 24 hours out from putting the new head on as I will need some dedicated tuning again to get it running right.

Matt, "Gotcha!" is your favorite 80s movie, isn't it?

So on to the car. Got my parts today and was able to fix the oil return line. Yay! I only needed the turbo side fitting and this one worked like a charm. I did not use the shower line I had because it was a simple plastic tube inside and that would have caused issues.

Here's my fancy $6 bathroom fitting. Beat that summit!





It was a tight squeeze to get that -10AN line on there so I'm not worried about it leaking. Since the oil return is taken care of I finished buttoning up the exhaust. I still don't have a secondary O2 bung and sensor in there, because I spangled my first one getting it out, so I'll have to add that later. The PCS simulates the signal for it anyway so I'm not too worried about it.

Now it was time to work on the wastegate dumptube. I decided to run an open dumptube this time. I'm just about finished with it, but it started to get really cold out so I came inside. Here's as far as I got:






Put the new pipe on my old flange (fixed that snapped bolt), and tweaked it so it will come out by the driver's front tire area. I need to put the bumper cover and tire back on before I finish up the final placement of it. I'll do that tomorrow. So all-in-all, not a bad 4 hours of work today.

[DsevenEm2]

good job, looks like it came out nice.. quick turbo noob question. what does the wastegate actually dump out... is it just pressure?

[dopes6070]

excess exhaust gas. The wastegate controls boost by only letting so much exhaust gas go through the turbo. If you diddnt have one boost would just keep rising untill the turbo ran out of air flow or your engine blew.

[skipbarber]

this is probably going to be the biggest hijack of clints' thread, ever. sorry, but now you'll be able to see why i havent been around as much lately. I spun a rod bearing and eventually seized the crank in my old motor...here is how the rest is unfolding

picked up a motor from PA, out of an 04 auto sedan that was wrecked within it's first 2 years of life. Motor had a measly 16k on the clock, but it sat so long, it looked like it had been under water. Took it to my shop for the initial stripping of parts. I need the block, crank, rods, and pistons, everything else will be new or from my dead motor


the guts of the motor looked FLAWLESS despite the exterior crud. I spent a few days trying to clean the block, nothing worked, not even the hot tank. i ended up using a wire brush on a drill to get most of it off, but now it looks like pewter, rather than aluminum

didnt even have to ridge ream the cylinders to get the pistons out.

initially, i was just going to check the bearing clearances, then pull my old motor and drop my a2 head on this block. but when i inspected the bearings, the top of crank bearing #1 was pretty worn..looked like over tightened accessory belts were to blame. so i decided to get all new bearings, new oil pump, new seals and new rings. most of which took my dealer a week to get.

yucky pistons, this person mustve been afraid to floor their car AND used really shitty gas. typical daily driven civic. two hours of finger busting work and a short bath in the hot tank later..


i honed the cylinder walls to get the perfect cross hatch to seat the new rings and get rid of the little bit of carbon crud near the deck side of the cylinders. checked the ring gaps and installed them on the pistons, then popped them all in last night. This morning I plastigauged the new bearings, all were nice and perfect, gooped them in assembly lube and went to work

as it sits today, new pump, seals and bearings installed

but not before i had to fight these old dowels out of the block first

i worked a total of 8 hours between yesterday and today just to get the motor where it is now. Im gonna take the day off tomorrow to get fat off of some turkey and the rest is going down on friday. i'll be back with more later, but im friggin tired and smell of all sorts of lubes..and not the good kinds.

/frustrating series of events

EDIT: before people ask. no i did not want to get rods and pistons, yes i realize this wouldve been a good time to do it. my car ran fine the way it was and I can go through this a good 2 more times before i spend the amount of money id be spending if i got a set of rods/pistons. yes, rods/pistons are good insurance and great for people wanting to lower compression and getting stronger parts. The lesson to be learned here...BOOSTED PEOPLE, MIND YOUR OIL LEAKS, DO NOT JUST DRIVE AROUND AND OCCASIONALLY ADD OIL, CEASE DRIVING YOUR CAR IMMEDIATELY UNTIL YOU FIX YOUR LEAKS. my spun rod bearing is me driving my car on low oil one too many times, coming back to bite me in the ass.

[speedfoos]

Somehow my HG and exhaust problems seem a little easier to handle now. Holy shit Edwin. That's the kind of stuff I wish I knew how to do! So is the green stuff and rubber hose to protect the crank while you monkey with things? Did you use a bottle brush-style honer or a different one for the cylinder walls? Over-tightened accessory belts, at 16K? You would think no one aside from a Honda assembly monkey had fucked with the belts. I didn't really realize belt tension was so important. I will be making doubly sure I have things right when I put my car back together tomorrow.

This has always been the "Everybody's Turbo Thread". No worries there man. Good work at getting all that done, and always nice to see someone do it themselves instead swiping a piece of plastic.

[skipbarber]

yea, the green things are thread covers to help protect the crank, it also extends the rod bolts to make it easier to line up with the crank when you push the piston in. I dont really know what the technical term for our hone is, we just call it the dingle berry hone, it looks like a pipe cleaner, but each little tip has a little ball of grinding stone on it, so it looks like a stick with few hundred dingle berries. you use the same hone for all of the cylinders, you just gotta get the right size hone, a high speed drill does the rest. I also checked the cylinder bores for taper and out of round before and after honing. i think the total amount of taper was like .0001", which is next to nothing, and that was only in one cylinder, the rest had even less, which i couldnt even measure. as far as the belts, i have no idea who is to blame, but the angle at which the the bearing is worn lines up perfectly with the belts. at 16k, it gave me something to think about. but the motor went together completely within spec and the crank was damn near flawless too. and swiping plastic? ha, i wish. this has already been more expensive than it shouldve been. Im not working nearly as much as i did over the summer, i make a fraction of what i used to make now that im in school. I was pissed when i got the bill from the dealer for the parts..most people i know pay about $25-40 for a complete 4 cylinder ring set, i paid $25 bucks for each cylinder! WTF!? everything took forever to get here. Id also gotten ARP rod bolts, which i didnt install because you run the risk of throwing off the rod bore a little and you need a machine shop to make them perfectly round again. BLAH.

[DsevenEm2]

this is definately the ultimate turbo thread... seriously. if anybody wanted to turbo the D... youd definately have to run down all...105 pages? well maybe 98 of them LOL... crazy shit skipbarber.. someday id like to be able to do that +1

[dopes6070]

I think I would probably be painting that block just so I wouldn't be like eehhhh every time I popped my hood. lol

[skipbarber]

painted block = harder to spot leaks. that and i didnt feel like doing all that masking. i dont give a flying fuck what my car looks like anymore, all that matters is that it's passing ricers left and right. besides, under my hood, you cant even see the block...

[HonCiv02]

psssshhhhhhhht!

dumptube looks good foos.

skip g/l with the build man.