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Originally posted by robbclark1 I think it will need modification. Hondawerx says that you need control arms from a RSX, but other than that I don't know.
You need RSX tie rod ends. I think the stock tie rod might need to be shaved a little, but I cannot say how much.
Front axles if you're doing the brake conversion but that won't work unless you have the K-series engine with it because where's the intermediate driveshaft going to go for a D17 engine?
actually I just found out from Zeil Motorsports that the EP ones will fit and thats what we are installing. for anyone interested, the EP FLT-A2 are out.
i believe the rear lower shock mount may have to be shaved fit the shock in (correct me if im wrong). other than that, it should be straight up forward. Just wondering where did you get the jic flt-a2 from and how much? If you can i like to see pics.
A little off topic, but I was checking out the Different top end suspensions for our car, mainly Tein Both the SS and Flex and The JIC jic flt-a2 . the SS is the weakest of the spring rates, at 336F/448R for the civic model and 448F/559R for the RSX. next up is the jic flt-a2 at 450F/506R for both the RSX and Si versions. lastly the Tein Flex is rated at 448F/559R the same as the SS versions for the same car. It will be interesting as to which setups jic flt-a2 Vs Tien Flex will enhance our cars performance the most. both have taken different approches. Tien going with a more agressive spring rate on the rear (i assume to get as much weight to the back in corners) where Jic went with a weaker back but a stronger front. On paper it looks like the Tien will help get the back to rotate better(less understeer or possibly Oversteer) where Jic looks to have taken a more moderate route (possibly more Understeer Vs. Tien) Both the jic flt-a2 and the Tien Flex cost about the same $1800-$1900.
Interesting..........
B&G is not listed here because they dont publish the spring rates of their suspension.
you got jics??? daaaamn thats sick foo...
EP3.. only thing you might have a problem with is alignment. aswzero had a problem with it. something to do with the tie rods. ya i know if it was for the DC5 you would have to shave 1mm of each side of the lower rear bracket. damn thats a nice setup tho, take pics of it if you can
Originally posted by VNlilMAN you got jics??? daaaamn thats sick foo...
EP3.. only thing you might have a problem with is alignment. aswzero had a problem with it. something to do with the tie rods. ya i know if it was for the DC5 you would have to shave 1mm of each side of the lower rear bracket. damn thats a nice setup tho, take pics of it if you can
That's what I was trying to point out. I forgot to mention that it was the toe angle he had an issue with.
A little toe out ain't bad if you're racing though it'll cause more wear on the tires. But for street, it's not necessary.
i forgot my dam key for my locking lugs so we couldnt put them on....im so pissed. i am going first thing in the morning to do the install and will have pics soon after.
zeil motorsports (importer of JIC-Magic) says that these will fit the 7th gen coupes and sedans without modification. i gotta say these things are beautiful i cant wait to install them.
Originally posted by VNlilMAN you got jics??? daaaamn thats sick foo...
EP3.. only thing you might have a problem with is alignment. aswzero had a problem with it. something to do with the tie rods. ya i know if it was for the DC5 you would have to shave 1mm of each side of the lower rear bracket. damn thats a nice setup tho, take pics of it if you can
ya they were sitting in the box at the shop teasing me.
For the rear you need a camber kit. That's the only good thing about our stock front suspesnsion compared to the traditional 4-wheel double wishbone is that you can adjust the front camber with the JICs.
Those coilovers retail for $1,980 as per JIC-Magic.com.
I can't wait for you to put'em on. I want to be 100% sure that the EP3 ones work.
damnit hurry up.. lol i think i'm more excited about this than you are...
btw people at clubrsx.com got theirs for 1600.. i'm sure the si's are the same..
Here's a shytty pic for ya. They are definitely going on Saturday morning at 9 am no excuses. We couldnt do them today cause I had a suprise walk-through on our house that my fiancee and I are having built. I'll take more/better pics after work.
We installed them (EP - FLT-A2) this morning and I've been driving around on them all day. I can barely get a finger in there and the rear is tucking a little tire. I think they are without a doubt the best modification i've done so far.
Of course when I went for the first drive I really put the JIC's to the test. They performed just like I would expect them to, exceptionally well. I have the damper setting on about halfway between the hardest setting and the softest setting and it handles like a dream. I went over bridges that gave me whiplash before with my neuspeed race springs and it felt like stock. Also, steering the car was ten times easier than it was before. I think there is a little oversteer, I need to get a alignment bad. When taking corners at high speeds the car seriously feels like a go-kart, very minimal body roll and i have no other suspension mods. Another thing that I noticed is when taking off from a dead stop the car stays planted and doesnt jerk back like it used to. I think that will make a little difference next time at the track : )
Here are some pics I took after the install. I will take my wheels off tomorrow and take some more pics.
EDIT- Installation was a breeze we took our time and finished in two hours and thats with rebalancing my wheels and tuning the JIC's
not at all with the setting i have right now they ride better than stock. when i hit bumps they rebound instantly. i could stiffen it up a little but i like the way it rides for daily driving.
dober... I am so jealous... if you didn't live on the opposite coast of me, I'd hunt you down.
Sweet - sweet - sweet. You mentioned performance but forgot ride quality. But when you do give us some info on ride quality, tell us how it rides/handles on various settings.
And I'm extremely glad that Ziel made it work on the coupes/sedans without modifications.
Car looks good, too. No doubt they can go lower than Teins.
I forgot to mention that it was the toe angle he had an issue with.
