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just to let you know i didn't necesarily become a mod cause i know more. i dont want my opinion or information to be valued more then any other member on this board just because of my title... n to clear things up when i meant "sag" in this particular post i meant that the back is going to be lower then the front(cause if you look above that sentence i did say "sag in the rear"). didnt mean that the springs itself will sag(settle over time, giving a lower drop after a year).
and you would probably know more about this so i guess these are questions from me... arent springs measured in how many lbs it takes to lower it one inch? so if the system weighs 100 and the spring rate is 300. wouldn't it be 1/3" and not 1/2". and arent lowering springs progressive meaning that they have a different spring rate depending on the part of the spring your looking at. for example having a 100lb system in your trunk would drop it 1/3" more but having a 300lb would only drop it 1/2"(remember this is just an example) more and not 1" more cause its a progressive spring.
I see you've done your home work. You are absolutely correct. Spring rate is lbs per 1" of deflection(or spring travel). Now I don't want to split hairs, but Imentioned that the spring rate is "almost" 300lbs and would represent "almost" 1/2". So yes, your absolutely correct. 100lbs of stereo equip would generate 1/3" in ride height. Keep in mind, this is a fairly heavy spring rate for a Honda. 92-00 Civic spring (rear) rates are in the 190lb range.
As far as sagging goes, if a spring is made well, there should be no sagging other than the spring seating on the rubber pad(which normally occurs in the first 48hrs). In my opinion, (and it's only an opinion) Eibachs, Neuspeeds, H&R, Progress, Gold Lines (of course) are fairly similiar in quality and manufacturing techniques. Stay away from anything "not" built in the US. Although, that can be somewhat difficult due to the fact that everyone "claims" there springs are made in the US. Fact of the matter is, other than the ones I've mentioned above, and possibly a few others, most springs are manufactured off shore. The US may not build a fantastic car, but they have their s___ together when it comes to building coil springs.
In regards to variable rate springs, from ride height down to solid height, springs are(for the most part) only functioning as a single/linear rate spring. The variable rate comes into play primarily when the strut is at full droop, coming back down to ride height. The softer rate allows the vehicle to come back to a ride height much softer. Then, as the spring, or vehicle, reaches normal ride height, the spring transitions into a straight rate design. Not the most technical reasoning, but I'm trying not to lose anyone.
Hope this helps. Any other questions, please feel free to contact me in the office anytime.
are the goldline spring rates 300 for our cars and 190 for 99-00? if it isn't, do you know the exact specs for both cars? just wondering why there is such a huge difference. and btw what is the stock spring rate?
To be exact, the spring rates on the 01> are 290lbs. The 92-00 Civic rear rates are 190lbs. The difference being completely different platforms. Struts located in different positions cause for different spring rates. Keep in mind that these are rear rates only. Stock rates on the 01> are in the range of 250-260lbs.
nope, but i heard they were great. but ya sorry i'm sold on neuspeeds tho. although i would most likely choose goldlines over eibach. IMO they(eibach) are way overrated and overpriced because of that. but ya on my list it goes 1) neuspeed, 2) goldline 3) h&r 4) eibachs, probably wouldnt even mess with the rest...
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Looks very nice! Seems to be just a little higher than the neuspeed sports I just installed. I have a 1 finger gap at all corners.
She will look great with some new wheels.
Oh, glad to see you are keeping the nbp baby clean![hr]
Hell ya... The first thing that came to mind when I looked at the car after it was drop was: Man those rims are TINY.
Just had a wash and wax. Such a b!tch to keep these black cars clean and tidy!
well, this page helped me a lot, i was debating between eibach and neuspeed, guess i was right choosing neuspeed, my local shop quoted me for about 210 shipped for neuspeed sports, pretty good? and my friend would install them for about 150... or should i wait till i buy all 4 camber before i do it? and then do the shock/spring and camber all at once?
uh.. i got mine installed for 210... you could find neuspeeds for 140 shipped... i got mine for 140 at a local shop by working them down from 155. installation should only be 80-100 on average... i got mine done for 70. thats supposed to be your boy and hes charging you 150? if it was my boy i would do it for free or dinner the most...
Thas our general rule, your boys when your done you have to take all of the mout to eat. Hey vnlilman you gotta wacth your friends tho, it took me two days to do a full drop on my accord,=) with 4 of us we bullsh!tted alot. =) they milked me out of two dinners for all 4 of us. 40 bones, them bastards.
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[hr]Originally posted by: VNlilMAN
uh.. i got mine installed for 210... you could find neuspeeds for 140 shipped... i got mine for 140 at a local shop by working them down from 155. installation should only be 80-100 on average... i got mine done for 70. thats supposed to be your boy and hes charging you 150? if it was my boy i would do it for free or dinner the most...[hr]
the local shop claim that they are getting the springs from their source at 180 dollars, and maybe it's just where i live, locally, a spring install cost about 300-250 for JUST the install, so 100-150 bucks for the install sounds good to me...
