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What is the difference between manual and fast bags?
The difference is in the valves. Manual kits use manual pneumatic switches. These switches are slower than electric valves. Manual valves include the gauge, switch, and valve together. This requires the air line to be plumed directly to the switch. The switch assembly would need to be mounted in a place that would allow air to exit the system and all the hoses to be plumed. Air is release direct from the switch.
Electric valves or fast bag valves use electric switches and gauges. The valves can be mounted in any location. The switches and gauges can then be mounted in a suitable location and only need the wires ran from the electric valve. Electric valves can also be used with a remote control, Playstation style controller, or 10-switch pre-wired box allowing for seesaw, all up, all down, etc., with a flip of the switch.
What are air struts or strut bags?
Most front wheel drive cars use McPherson struts. Most struts are a combination shock and coil spring. Air struts are the same except the coil spring has been replaced with an air bag. This allows the McPherson strut equipped car to have the capabilities of the air bag suspension.
Are air bag suspension reliable?
Yes. If installed and maintained properly, an air bag suspension system will last as long as any other suspension component.
I heard strut bags can twist and bust. Is this true?
While it is true that early strut bag systems where not very good, today's air struts are much better. The new air strut systems will turn with the strut assembly and not bind up.
What do the air bags replace?
On most vehicles the air bags completely replace the springs and shocks. Some vehicles can still use their shocks.
What are air cylinders or air rods?
Air cylinders where designed for vehicles that may not have a place large enough to mounts an air bag. Hondas need to use air cylinders because the strut tower is not wide enough to use an air bag.
How is the ride quality?
It depends on your vehicle. If you are using really low profile tires or no shocks, you could have a rough ride. Most ride problems are from not having enough air in the bags. If the ride quality is poor, just put more air in the bag.
Air cylinders will ride rough. If you have air cylinders and are experience a rough ride, install a set of air accumulators. That will help your ride.
What are air accumulators and how do they work?
The problem with air cylinders is that they do not have any give like bags. When you hit a bump the air has no place to go. Air accumulators give the air a place to go. When you hit a bump, the air goes from the cylinder to the accumulator. The air then returns from the accumulator back into the cylinder when you are driving normal. The accumulator also is filled with nitrogen gas like a shock. This allows the accumulator to give a smoother ride.
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Thanks. I was surfing the net for info on air suspension, and I found it. Great addition to the "general" FAQ if you ask me[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
Are you planning on getting airsuspension? That is what I'm trying to get but CIVICONBAGS says he has airbags and his cars ride quality sucks. I am waiting to see if one day I get an a car with airsuspension and see how it rides.
From my understanding, I think that air accumulators only go with air rods because the air has no where else to go where as with bags, the air can move and and such......
Well I saw a 2k2 civic on airbags. I asked him if they were bags or rods and he told me bags. When he was driving his car looked as if it had blown shocks. It was too bouncy. I went to the place where he said he got them installed and the guy there told me that the airbag kit had just came out for the 7thgen and that the car I saw was the first to have it. I forgot to ask him what company made it but he told me that if I got the kit it would ride better than factory. From what I saw it was bouncy. Now I am having second thoughts on airsuspension. BTW he quoted me $2600 total installed. They were actually airbags with a strut.
got cylinders on my prelude it rides better then factory. Ride quality depends on if its a FBSS system or a FB system size of line u are running and the cylinder quality. got mine from www.the-hack-shack.com 1 year ago. I wouldnt suggest their kit anymore its to massed produced now. CLICK TO SEE PICS thats my lude sits low dont crack my kit or nething any more got a civic for daily tho [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
Hey error, why would it matter if its fb or fbss. Shouldn't it ride the same? I heard bags ride better than cylinders. So if I get the bags or airstruts for my car it should ride good enough for a daily driven car? Do you have accumulators on you car.
