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I placed some on my Acura Intgera, but is was lowered and had 17".
I does work.
but I was sure on the not lowering and but bigger tire thing.
Now I know and thanks.
There is no such thing as a rear lower camber kit. It is a camber arm. Look at the suspension and you will see you can't change the camber from the bottom.
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Yeah, Camber kit is different from the coilovers. If you change your drop you need to take it in and have the camber adjusted but if you are staying where you are at then they will do you good.
For the love of god, stop asking. I thought 3 times a day was enough, apparently not. I suppose its better to educate yourselves before rather than later, but if you use the search function like you're supposed to, and you do your research before you spend upwards of $800 on a drop done right, then you should figure out in 5 minutes or less that YES YOU NEED A CAMBER KIT. For mild drops (less than 1.25") you probably don't, but you may opt for one just to be safe. I have a friend dropped on Pro-kits, no camber kits, and he's got nearly spec alignment numbers. Any lower, you probably want one if you value your tires. While toe kills tires more than camber does, you can only adjust toe so much (especially in the rear). Toe and Camber settings effect eachother, so you need to have the adjustability to get your toe to 0. In the front, your camber can be as much as -2.25 before your steering rods run out of travel, but -2.25 will probably do something to your tires.
Rear kits are a threaded adjustable length upper control arm. It bolts in with 3 bolts, 2 on the body, one on the back of the drum and you can adjust its length to control the angle of the wheel. This part is critical as the rear is far more prone to camber changes than the front (nature of a multi-link double wishbone). You need it. There's numerous kits available. SPC and Ingalls probably make the most inexpensive and widely used ones, they're $110-140 depending on the store... you can spend plenty more if you want, I've seen them go as high as $400 for JDM brand super adjustable (5 degree) arms, but they're unnecessary for basic adjustment. A normal range (+2/-3 degree) kit will take care of any reasonable drop.
Front kits... well 2 options. Camber or Crash Bolts that are smaller than the stock crash bolts give you additional range of motion by freeing space up in the knuckle hole to set the knuckle more upright. They're $20-30 bucks, but they have plenty of flaws. If you drive hard, they have a tendency to move and not hold their setting. As a result, frequent alignments (every few months) are a necessity. If you're looking at any sort of racing, I don't recommend them unless the rules specify that this is the only way you can change your camber. Honestly, if you can get your camber back to about -1.5 degrees or less without the use of camber bolts and still get 0 toe, I wouldn't even bother with the bolts.
Camber Plates are the better alternative. They replace the upper mount of the strut with a sliding bearing surface and the entire suspension angle changes from the top. This allows the use of stock crash bolts which hold their setting much better, it also provides a better reaction from the corner because the wheel is aligned with the suspension like its supposed to be (scrub radius unchanged). Plates run from about $200 to $400, there's a few available.
I don't think I missed anything.... if you have a question about anything that has been posted here or still do not understand, then post it IN THIS THREAD.
Ok... I got bags but I'm suffering from positive camber even when not locked up. Is there anything that I can do? I had heard that when bagged you can't get a camber kit and I'm pretty much screwed on that one, is that true?
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Ok... I got bags but I'm suffering from positive camber even when not locked up. Is there anything that I can do? I had heard that when bagged you can't get a camber kit and I'm pretty much screwed on that one, is that true?
sorry for the late answer. Think of it this way...with bags you are constantly changing the height and the camber. The rear is arm, so any time you change the height, the arm stays put and you can't do anything about camber unless you get under and adjust it. A camber kit with bags is pretty much pointless, but again bags are pointless unless for show.
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Yeah, Camber kit is different from the coilovers. If you change your drop you need to take it in and have the camber adjusted but if you are staying where you are at then they will do you good.
mmk... so, i'm getting these Eibach Coil over Shock Absorbers...
these are actually coilovers right? not just shocks? because i am dumbfounded to find them so cheap if that were case. i feel like there's a catch. like, its just shocks or something. i mean, 265 (w/shipping!) for COILOVERS?! that is just insane!... i was going to get springs, shocks, and DEF cambers, but im worried that these "shock absorbers" are not what i'm expecting, although they sure look and seem like more than what i want.
so what you're saying is -if i were to get these and just keep them at the same height adjustment i wouldn't have to change the camber? but no matter WHAT, even with coilovers, a camber is ALWAYS needed, is it not?
because it just doesn't sound smart to not get a camber kit if there is a drop involved, especially a serious one.
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Once you get your coilvers set at the drop you want, you will need to set the camber. Then, if you change the height on the coilovers, you will need to adjust your camber.
As for those coilovers, they say they're sold in a set of four, and they mention the springs and shocks in the description, so yeah, it looks like it comes with everything. I have no idea why the price is that low. I'd call them and ask some questions before I bought them, tho.
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Ok, this is going to sound like a really, really stupid question. For the rear camber kit, after I install it, I can just take it to an alignment shop and they'll be able to adjust it to the proper settings? I have no idea what takes place in an alignment, I just know that they put it on an alignment rack and put some stuff into a computer that controls it, so I figured the machine does all the work. I guess I'm confused as to how the machine could adjust the camber kit.
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