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Old 01-10-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Full Review on Hayame Coilovers

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How to adjust the height on the hayames

When I heard these were out I knew I had to get them. It comes with tokico shocks, 3 locknuts(opposed to 2) and upper mounts all for only $650 shipped from www.urbanimport.com. The main thing that separates this from teins, b&g or kw is the 3 locknuts.

Advantage of 3 locknuts: You know how most coilovers, lower you go worse the ride. Well that’s because with coilovers such as tein, you adjust the spring perch(the thing the spring sits on) to lower the car. When you lower the car 2" with tein's your basically compressing the shock 2" all the time, which puts added stress on it. With the hayames you’re not adjusting the perch but the actual length of the strut. This allows the shock to retain full stroke and gives you the same ride at 2" as you would at stock height.

Top Mount: This allows ease of installation. Basically just take out the old struts and put in the hayames. No need to worry about compressing the springs, what parts you need from the stock struts, whether your 01 needs new mounts, etc... It just makes installation a breeze.

Also when receiving the coilovers I saw something I didn’t see in the pictures. There isn’t a camber plate BUT they made the hole for the top bolt wider so that you can adjust the camber that way without using a (front) camber kit.

Another thing is they have 'spring isolators'. People with teins or b&g sometimes complain about clanking noises. The spring isolators eliminate the noises often found with coilovers.

There are so many little details hayame paid attention to. It may not have damper adjustability but it has all these other features that the $1200 coilovers don’t have. All for $650, you can’t beat it... Best bang for buck hands down.



Ok so I finally got the fronts on. Right now i have the fronts at 2.25" and the rear at 2.5"(basically exactly the same as neuspeed race). Drove my car to work(the roads are really badd and I practically memorized the streets so it put them to the test) and I have to say they ride really nice. There's a couple places where I cringe going 15mph but with the hayames I can take them at 35mph without having to. The rear is slightly softer than what i'm used to but i'm sure adjusting the preload on the springs will fix that(just raise the perch up to compress the springs more). I'll probably play with that tonight if I can and will probably drop it down so that I tuck in a week(cause my dad has to use my car on thursday). I should probably be going down to a 2.5-3" drop eventually with my 18s. Oh and best of all NO MORE BOTTOMING OUT!!!

I highly recommend getting them from Michael at www.urbanimport.com. Great service and awesome to work with. Fast shipping too, got them 2 days after he received my payment.
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no damper adjustability..... so that means the ride quality is permanently set? how is the quality by the way?
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once u get it all on can u tell me the difference between the ride on the race springs and the hayames?
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sweet! looks like i'll be getting some hayames pretty soon then. i hope they fit the 04
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ya no damper adjustability but for $650 you cant really ask for much. tein basics which run $900 and b&gs that are $1200 dont offer damper adjustment either. b&g's are "self-adjusting" but all shocks are basically self adjusting.

Ya i'll try to give my best comparison after I finish the install. Only if i had more time today. Should have time to finish tomorrow tho.
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^thanks for the review.....i really need to replace my ground controls and stock shocks!
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is it just me or does it seem like the wheelgap on the fronts of our cars is bigger than the rear riding stock?
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Any clues as to the spring rates? Just wondering... it doesn't matter to me all that much since I've got my mind made up, but for that price, if they're stiff enough to be considered race-worthy, thats a hell of a start-up deal.

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With the hayames you’re not adjusting the perch but the actual length of the strut. This allows the shock to retain full stroke and gives you the same ride at 2" as you would at stock height.
This is originally a JIC Magic feature, but yes... it basically allows the ride to remain the same regardless of how low the car is, and doesn't waste your suspension travel. You will have increased travel over the coils with the adjustable spring perch design, and you should probably make sure that you leave more clearance than you think is neccessary at low ride heights, then lower it incrementally if possible/desired.

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Very nice write up VNlilman . Since reading your review, I might actually be thinking about getting a pair oppsed to the b&g's or tein basics. Since each of them are 890 shipped, I would save a significant amount of money by going with the hayame's for 650. Only thing that scares me now is that no one has had these coilovers or used them for a long period of time corect, so no one knows its quality over time. Tokico is a good brand, and should be decent. Either way, nice review, let us know how the ride feels after all 4 have been installed. Nice work!
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01-03 Civic 6KG Front/8KG Rear

is the spring rates found on gbc.. they are the same company vnil is talking about btw. search for hayame..

someone compare this to the teins and kw's
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ok.. never mind.. these are teins

6.0K/8.0K-336LBS/448LBS

KW's

Type II (DC5,EP3) 350F/500R

3 locknuts, these are my coilovers..


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Ya as stated above, spring rates are 6kg front and 8kg rear. You can go stiffer by getting the RSX ones. Those are 8kg up front 10kg rear but ya you need to do some modifications(new tie rods, shaving rear mount, etc...). Most coilovers for our cars are in that range tho..
Hayame: 335/447
tein basic: 336/448
tein ss: 336/448
KW 2: 350/500

True no one has used these for a long time but i'm sure they'll last. The shocks are made by tokico and also you are using stiffer spring rates BUT your not putting as much stress on the shock because of that 3rd locknut.

DogstyleEX, yours are to'ser or something like that right? I remember you posting about them before.
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which is good? TIEN or Hayame..still deciding on wat to get..
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hey VNlilMAN..how are u getting it 650 shipped?..cuz on the site its says to ship to cali in my area which is some what near la..it cost $100 for standard shipping
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how do you know the the shocks are made by tokicos?
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