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Old 02-07-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Rear Brake conversion thread

Im sorry but i just have to vent about what people think they can do with their brakes.

Every other day somebody posts how to do the rear disc brakes. People just do not search, it makes me so mad.

here are some facts about our brakes.

1. to do a rear disc brake conversion you need from ONLY a US 02-03 si: 1. calipers 2. discs 3. spindles(knuckel) 4. e-brake cables from a rsx or si 5. dust covers. (picture below)

2. You cannot move the front rotors to the back.

3. The front si brakes are the same as our front

4. Stop asking what is needed, i already posted everything

5. The rear disc swap is straight up, no cutting what so ever

6. If i just had brakes on a non-ex, I would first upgrade my cars tires, then add a ABS system, then disc pads, then rear discs. With this you will never even need to upgrade ur rotors, unless you just wanna look cool, the bigger calipers will problem make u lose your braking ability.

Currently I have Parada spec 2 tires with 215/40/18(23.5 pounds each) rubber on centerline rims 18x7(14.5 pounds each), a total of 38 pounds, 2 pounds lighter than stock rims and tires.

I have ABS(ainti-lock brakes system) which has saved me from a million accidents and does not make my rims lock up, which would lead me into a uncontrolled slide. I have rear disc brakes from a si. and i have AEM pads all around. i have slammed on my brakes and i have stopped as soon as i needed them. i think i might even compete with a porche in braking. Remember the 2 main things that will stop you are pads and tires; abs will just help the situation. these little mods are the only things i think any civic owner needs. no big brakes are going to ever going to be needed, well unless you wanna look cool. o yea, ventilation to ur calipers will help not over heating ur pads which is what most big brakes claims to stop... which can be easily solved by getting bigger rims that have good ventilation.

if i had to chose what i would do to my car it would be get 16's with some Azenis, and better brake pads... that would be all i would ever need

I will answer no more questions about what is needed for rear brakes ever again.

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You're too funny Hondaluver, but I've noticed all the rear disc threads as well. You mentioned needing calipers twice BTW.
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^^^^^^ Cool you got seperate weights! As i recall mine are right about that same weight total! @ you big wheel haters!
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BTW, how much $$$ were you into the knuckle hub assemblies ?
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i got all my parts used from a 2002 si for 500 bucks, for me it was 350 bucks but i needed to get a new spindel for one side(150), since it was bent from the accedent it was in
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car looks nice with all four discs
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well why don't you write up a Rear Disk Conversion FAQ and we can add it to the rest! Hopefully they will see that, but I doubt it. Just laziness on their part.
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i'll probly do one later on.. try to gather up all the questions that people have been asking.. but for now, this is the thread to look to for rear discso ur lockings will be easier...

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so what is the total cost of everything, including installation for those of us that suck at DIY?
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i got all my parts used from a 2002 si for 500 bucks
im guessing labor will cost u like 100-150(matters where you take it to) bucks cause it takes along time... the bleeding, and making sure everything fits, the endlinks that are a bastord and i really suggest a torque wrench... oyea and if you do this, i reccomend you use a lift cause the brake lines have to be disconnected from inside where the ebrake is and run the lines under the car, you have to move the brackets down a tiny bit, the brake lines will fit kinda tight, but the will fit.

i think this was really worth every penny i spent on it...
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damn this is something i wish i could do, i wish i knew more about my car to do this, or the money to do this, looks damn good though
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What do u need to add ABS to ur car?? I hav a 01 lx.
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you need the abs modual, and run all the lines. im not sure about about running the abs sensors. i think that the stock breaks should have the sensor inputs but no sensors running to them.
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Had you looked in the Main thread, you would see this is already posted there.

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any way i can get em back?
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Im going to be doing this conversion next month. Heres a complete list of honda part numbers and there prices from majestic honda (hondaautomotiveparts.com).

1073309 007 1 CALIPER SUB-ASSY., R. RR. 154.51
1073310 008 1 CALIPER SUB-ASSY., L. RR. 154.51
1082874 006 2 DISK, RR. BRAKE 35.66
1095008 028 1 MUDGUARD, R. RR. 15.83
1095009 029 1 MUDGUARD, L. RR. 15.83
1082874 006 2 DISK, RR. BRAKE 35.66
1073334 001 1 KNUCKLE, R. RR. 143.28
1073335 002 1 KNUCKLE, L. RR. 143.28
1095011 005 1 WIRE B, R. PARKING BRAKE 25.54
1095012 008 1 WIRE B, L. PARKING BRAKE 24.08

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nice, we got part #;s now, thanx
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THANK YOU for this thread

atleast now i know what i need to look for and buy

can i get a write up on doing this?

would any shop know how to put them on?

I plan on picking up some nice rotors and pads and painting my calipers and doing it all at once

btw, anybody know if theres enkei arashi's fitting our bolt pattern??
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DAAAMN! pricey mod! Does it really help though (rear disks)? I read in an old thread it doesnt help much! Also, for non abs cars, doing this will enable ABS? Thanks!
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this is a really good mod, it helps the braking alot. this is pricy but i rather pay 600-700 now to save about 5,000 in damages from a accedent that i could totally avoid in the future. no this will noto enable the abs. you will need to get the whole abs system that only comes on EX civics
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Here in Canada we can purchase an Acura EL that has all of this as stock equipment plus more. We enjoy it. Alot! And for about the same price as a Honda EX 4 door.
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