Honda Civic Si and Honda Civic SiRThe Honda Civic Sport Package, better known as the Honda Civic Si is a great base vehicle to start a project. Upgraded components on the Honda Civic Si gave this car a advantage from the start. The Honda Civic SiR is the Canadian version for the Si.
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im from the uk and not quite sure which is the svt focus u talkin bout....................but if its the st170 u r on bout then the type-r is a much better, handlin,more powerful then the focus, but if u compare it with the focus RS then the RS is slightly quicker car
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[hr]Originally posted by: Xtreme
im from the uk and not quite sure which is the svt focus u talkin bout....................but if its the st170 u r on bout then the type-r is a much better, handlin,more powerful then the focus, but if u compare it with the focus RS then the RS is slightly quicker car[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: Xtreme
im from the uk and not quite sure which is the svt focus u talkin bout....................but if its the st170 u r on bout then the type-r is a much better, handlin,more powerful then the focus, but if u compare it with the focus RS then the RS is slightly quicker car[hr]
DRIVEN BOTHText!!!!!! (Quite hard, I might add). No question, SVT would win in 3/4 of any competitions. (taking in descrepancies for driving techniques). However, the Si, is much more tame to drive everyday and easier to break out of it's sheepskin. Both are fun, but Ford did a good thing this time.
Yup, there does seem to be a heap-gob of recalls on the SVT, but I think my EX had 2-3 or more recalls. I have felt that over the last 5-7 years Honda's QC has not kept up with other's. I also think that Ford has inproved over that same time period. It is funny, and somehow I think it is cyclical. Look at the quality of vehicles each were producing, say, in 1985. BIG DIFFERENCE.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
sure seems like honda is taking a new direction with its vehicles lately. Do the same people that engineered and designed the 5th, and 6th gen hondas still working at Honda?
all i have to say is that my sister works for ford and all the talk on the
focus is that there cheaply made, a throw away car as they put it.
they come from the factory with bent frames, alot of them have brake failure.
I would highly doubt that the same teams of engrs. and the like, are still working for Honda today. I would bet it has to do with company profits and cashflow. Why would Honda change anything (i.e., standards and procedures) when they have had a winner or two, on their hands for over 15 years? The Accord and Civic are huge sellers in the US compared to thier cost to build them. Futhermore, for the last 15 or so years they have been bulding the company to become compeditive with other manufactures. I think we forget that Honda Motors isn't even considered when one lists the largest auto manfrs. (Ford, GM, Fuji,.etc.) I do think that we will see a comeback in Honda quality over the next 8-10 years, but it will get worse before it will get better. Honda is not done build and preparing itself to be a huge manufacturer. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
As far as the Focus is concerned, Yup they are throw away cars. But, what is considered a throw away car to a team of engineers who's average salary hovers around six figures? In that light, a throw away car would be considered anything with a sticker of less than $20-$25K. A throw away car to normal people, say you and me, would be that damn Rio thing or what I was most familiar with was the Festiva. I do not like it when people talk about how bad one maker is because they know someone who works there. I know people who work at my local Ford and local GM plants here in KC and have heard the horror stories from both. There is no perfect place to work or we would all work there, correct?:c ry:
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[hr]Originally posted by: incajay
all i have to say is that my sister works for ford and all the talk on the
focus is that there cheaply made, a throw away car as they put it.
they come from the factory with bent frames, alot of them have brake failure.
DRIVEN BOTHText!!!!!! (Quite hard, I might add). No question, SVT would win in 3/4 of any competitions. (taking in descrepancies for driving techniques). However, the Si, is much more tame to drive everyday and easier to break out of it's sheepskin. Both are fun, but Ford did a good thing this time. 
