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that site sucks, they dont really give any specifics on the laws they are talking about!
"Excessively noisy exhaust systems and mufflers (27150, 27151 VC). Many aftermarket exhaust systems and parts are illegal. Look for parts that meet California law. If it doesn't say it meets the law, it probably doesn't" --so whats the legal dB limit???
"Tinting the front side windows and the windshield (except for a narrow band at the top of the windshield). Windows behind the driver's head may be tinted. If rear window is tinted, right-side mirror is required" -- so how dark can you tint?
like it or not modifying cars have been around as long as cars have, no matter how many laws they make, it wont change a thing.
now if you'll excuse me i'm gonna go rev up my loud ass Tanabe exhaust while flashing my blue and red strobes
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The tinting law goes like this
as dark as you want on the back and any windows rear of the driver
nothing on the front side windows, unless a doctor says you can but even then you are only allowed to go as dark as 85%
as far as the windshield goes you can only have a strip upto 4 or 5 inches thick or to the AS-1 line, but I dont think Hondas have an AS-1 line, mine doesn't
I broke the law and put 16% all around and a 6 inch strip on the windshield and Ive already gotten one ticket for close to a hundred bucks, but I still haven't taken it off and I don't plan on it either.
^ya my car is legal too At least my turbo wont show like yours . Ya thats soo smog legal, least it isnt on an lx even with a new cat wont help!
Stafford needs to just get a smog exempt for us, Catalyst said he would and he hasn't! I will not buy until he does...
Last edited by WhiteCastle; 03-04-2004 at 07:31 PM.
here is something taken from the CHP street legal site:
Illegal lights, whether or not they are operating. It is illegal just to have them on the vehicle (24003 VC).
what does this mean. i have foglights and theyre a little on the blue side. do you think i have to worry.
Originally posted by 18secQuaterMile that site sucks, they dont really give any specifics on the laws they are talking about!
"Excessively noisy exhaust systems and mufflers (27150, 27151 VC). Many aftermarket exhaust systems and parts are illegal. Look for parts that meet California law. If it doesn't say it meets the law, it probably doesn't" --so whats the legal dB limit???
"Tinting the front side windows and the windshield (except for a narrow band at the top of the windshield). Windows behind the driver's head may be tinted. If rear window is tinted, right-side mirror is required" -- so how dark can you tint?
like it or not modifying cars have been around as long as cars have, no matter how many laws they make, it wont change a thing.
now if you'll excuse me i'm gonna go rev up my loud ass Tanabe exhaust while flashing my blue and red strobes
You are allowed 95bd at 50ft. Nobody carries a decibel meter, so you will get the ticket and will have to later have your exhausted metered at one of the CHP offices.
yea i think CA state law says that if an officer can hear it at 50 feet then they can issue you a ticket. bummer. ah well. thanc for the input one and all.
wrong. the 50 feet law is only applicable to new cars.
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Q7: What are the noise levels specified in Sections 27201-27206 VC? Can these be used to cite loud vehicles?
No. Section 27200 VC prohibits the sale of new motor vehicles that exceed the noise limits specified in these Sections. The specified noise limits (80 dB(A) (decibels) for all new cars, pickup trucks, vans and motorcycles apply only to new motor vehicles, under full throttle acceleration tests, measured 50 feet from the test vehicle, as specified in Sections 1040-1044, 1046 and 1047, Title 13, California Code of Regulations (13 CCR). These noise levels and the specified test methods apply to manufacturers and new car dealers only, for new vehicle certification purposes, and may not be used for enforcement purposes against vehicles being operated on public roadways. The CHP is not aware of any significant violation of Section 27200 VC by vehicle manufacturers or dealers.
Aftermarket Exhaust: 95 dB in neutral and measured 2-inch away from the exhaust tip.
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Q9: What is the exhaust noise test specified in 13 CCR? Can this be used for enforcement?
Sections 1030-1036, 13 CCR, were intended to be used by Licensed Muffler Certification Stations as a means of determining if an exhaust system met the requirements of the Muffler Certification Program (when those programs were operational). They specify testing procedures for motor vehicle exhaust noise alone (as opposed to total vehicle noise). This procedure specifies a limit of 95 dB(A) measured 20 inches from the exhaust pipe outlet with the engine operating in neutral, typically at a speed of 3000-5000 rpm. (For comparison, a modern rotary lawn mower with a 5-horsepower Briggs & Stratton engine typically emits approximately 93 dB(A) at the same distance at full speed under no load.) It applies only to passenger vehicles. It does not apply to motorcycles or to vehicles over 6000 pounds gross weight.
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Q2: Aren't all exhaust system modifications prohibited?
No. Section 27151 VC prohibits the modification of the exhaust system to amplify or increase the noise emitted by the vehicle, making the vehicle not in compliance with Section 27150 VC or exceeding the noise limits established in Sections 27201-27206 VC. Section 27151 VC does not prohibit all modifications to an exhaust system. It also does not prohibit all modifications that increase the noise level of the exhaust system over that of the original, factory-installed exhaust system (as it did until 1980). It only prohibits modifications that result in a noise level higher than those specified in Sections 27201-27206 VC. Accurately determining compliance with Sections 27201-27206 VC for enforcement purposes is generally impractical. Enforcement personnel must make an informed professional evaluation to determine if excessive noise statutes are being violated.
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Q6: Aren't all modified exhaust systems unlawful under pollution control laws?
No.Current pollution control laws regarding aftermarket exhaust systems are quite complex, but do permit the installation of a variety of aftermarket and "exempt" systems. Due to the complexity of modern pollution control systems and the laws governing them, the CHP does not provide technical training in this area. Enforcement of pollution control laws is the responsibility of the Bureau of Automotive Repair through the "Smog Check" program.
NOTE: If the officer pulls you over and you know you didnt do any thing wrong, do not QUESTION the officer. Ask the officer but not QUESTION their judgement. POLITELY explain yourself, I dont care how mad you were and how late you are on your date. Remember this word...POLITELY.
Street Legal laws from the CHP 
. Ya thats soo smog legal, least it isnt on an lx even with a new cat wont help! 
the 50 feet law is only applicable to new cars.
